Physical ranged strike!

[Noox-115]

I think they did that because of the flexibility of the 3 roles no matter what situation at any range you can move around and attack compared to melee that loose a lot of damage when they are kept away from the boss for many seconds and as for casters their movement is limited to certain extand and it also dont help that bard and dancer are both support dps

[Ayan_Calvesse]

I think they did that because of the flexibility of the 3 roles no matter what situation at any range you can move around and attack compared to melee that loose a lot of damage when they are kept away from the boss for many seconds and as for casters their movement is limited to certain extand and it also dont help that bard and dancer are both support dps

Aye but as bosses now take up 99% of the arena uptime becomes less and less of a concern; so unless the bard and dancer buffs are significant (generally not anymore) then really...why not just take one of the 6 melee dps available?

[Isala]

I'll admit I don't get the Healer strike in savage, ultimate and even ex healers are needed unless you're crazy cracked and doing coordinated fun run. But to each their own.

Phys ranged breaks my heart because it feels like we have 0 reason to exist

It's because even in those contents, the job still boils down to hitting the same GCD button 50% of the time. It's boring as hell, and not engaging in this least.

That said, I stand with our Ranged bros in solidarity. And our Tank bros. And our Melee bros. And our Caster bros. Because Jesus tap dancing Christ, the Job design this expansion for every single role is worse than ARR. This team has NO idea what they're doing, and everything sucks to play.

[Supersnow845]

It's because even in those contents, the job still boils down to hitting the same GCD button 50% of the time. It's boring as hell, and not engaging in this least.

That said, I stand with our Ranged bros in solidarity. And our Tank bros. And our Melee bros. And our Caster bros. Because Jesus tap dancing Christ, the Job design this expansion for every single role is worse than ARR. This team has NO idea what they're doing, and everything sucks to play.

thats not right the job design team does know what they are doing………when it comes to putting 95% of their collective resources into pictomancer and making it the only fun and well designed job in the game

Give em some credit /s

[Raikai]

Honestly, the quick fix for this would be increasing the phys ranged party composition slot damage buff to something more meaningful like 5% instead of the 1% the others get.

This way, phys ranged becomes a 'faux-role' in the party composition, making harder for people to ignore them.

[Toutatis]

I mean if you look at PF's on Crystal pre-patch most will not have a slot for phys range I noticed which IS a bit concerning as I think there is a BIG problem with phys range in that the gain of bringing them does not seem to outweigh the dps gain of a caster or just adding a melee dps. That said honestly its just part of a problem with the concept of phys ranged because they are the only job that straddles 2 functions - bards and dancers do less damage because they bring a special utility; machinist however does not and so any sweeping tweak to the role doesn't work.

I noticed a few groups like that on Primal in the past few days as well (2 spots for casters and 2 melee or just any role except phys range) and it’s only for EX trials. It’s not like they even have a tight enrage timer. It’s only a few but if SE keeps going that route, it may become a trend. And what does SE do with the latest patch? Make the gap even wider.

[Tunda]

Honestly, the quick fix for this would be increasing the phys ranged party composition slot damage buff to something more meaningful like 5% instead of the 1% the others get.

This way, phys ranged becomes a 'faux-role' in the party composition, making harder for people to ignore them.

This is the issue.. we don't want "quick fixes" we want big changes

[Raikai]

This is the issue.. we don't want "quick fixes" we want big changes

I wouldn't expect big changes for a whole dps niche in the middle of a content patch... Better chances for a big fix as an expansion feature.

[ThaCa]

They really should just go all in and make all DPS greedy, no longer having to worry about balancing between party buffs will make them all equally desireable in all content and more fun to play.

[Willemdarke]

I wouldn't expect big changes for a whole dps niche in the middle of a content patch... Better chances for a big fix as an expansion feature.

Why not?
BLM, VPR among others have gotten major mechanical changes just this patch and jobs such as Paladin have gotten potency increases across the board on pretty much all skills.