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    Hanzz96's Avatar
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    Alyxandria Ashwren
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    Physical ranged strike!

    The state of physical ranged as a role is concerning.

    Right now various people are doing the math and realising that the dps of physical ranged is so low across all three jobs that it may not be worth bringing them to early prog at all when double Caster (one being a pct) will probably bring enough extra damage to warrant not having the 1% stat boost for bringing a physical ranged.

    Whether or not this is true is irrelevant but the fact that this conversation is even occurring is sad. Physical ranged players deserve more than just being brought to a party out of obligation for the 1% and now even that is in question.

    The ranged tax is a joke. Strats are designed for Melee to get full uptime no matter what even if they adjust hit box sizes this tier. Casters also have plenty of mobility with PCT's dash being broken and having a sprint attached.

    Phys ranged needs love desperately. Even gameplay wise DNC and BRD are struggling (even though BRD is doing amazing for damage). DNC has insane overcap issues due to new Tilana and had all its rotational flexibility and resource management stripped away in DT. Seriously why would they take away other jobs "give gauge button" due to overcap only to give DNC a literal overcap button because of how Esprit generation and technical finish work??

    BRD has a lot of timing issues to do with EA and the effect of Army's muse. Also the opener being extremely weak due to lack of coda is crazy since they just fixed this issue with drg.

    Overall the role is in a state and we deserve to strike more than healers!

    PSA: The title "Physical ranged strike" is a joke and a play on the Healer strike. It's a funny used to get attention to the post.
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    Last edited by Hanzz96; 07-31-2024 at 12:01 AM.

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    PvP kit is perfect for physical range
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    I really don’t know what the point is of pitting this against the healer strike

    I agree phys ranged has been pushed to the edge of usability in favour of the melee (even PCT overperfoming expectations was a boon for the melee as they just buffed them all to compensate)

    The role desperately needs something that’s not the invisible raid 1% and right now phys ranged identity is basically lack of role specific identity which isn’t an identity
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Adam Brazenmutt
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    Hell yeah, bring Bitzballer and make it hit harder than Pictomancer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I really don’t know what the point is of pitting this against the healer strike

    I agree phys ranged has been pushed to the edge of usability in favour of the melee (even PCT overperfoming expectations was a boon for the melee as they just buffed them all to compensate)

    The role desperately needs something that’s not the invisible raid 1% and right now phys ranged identity is basically lack of role specific identity which isn’t an identity
    I'll admit I don't get the Healer strike in savage, ultimate and even ex healers are needed unless you're crazy cracked and doing coordinated fun run. But to each their own.

    Phys ranged breaks my heart because it feels like we have 0 reason to exist
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanzz96 View Post
    I'll admit I don't get the Healer strike in savage, ultimate and even ex healers are needed unless you're crazy cracked and doing coordinated fun run. But to each their own.

    Phys ranged breaks my heart because it feels like we have 0 reason to exist
    It's because even in those contents, the job still boils down to hitting the same GCD button 50% of the time. It's boring as hell, and not engaging in this least.

    That said, I stand with our Ranged bros in solidarity. And our Tank bros. And our Melee bros. And our Caster bros. Because Jesus tap dancing Christ, the Job design this expansion for every single role is worse than ARR. This team has NO idea what they're doing, and everything sucks to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    It's because even in those contents, the job still boils down to hitting the same GCD button 50% of the time. It's boring as hell, and not engaging in this least.

    That said, I stand with our Ranged bros in solidarity. And our Tank bros. And our Melee bros. And our Caster bros. Because Jesus tap dancing Christ, the Job design this expansion for every single role is worse than ARR. This team has NO idea what they're doing, and everything sucks to play.
    thats not right the job design team does know what they are doing………when it comes to putting 95% of their collective resources into pictomancer and making it the only fun and well designed job in the game

    Give em some credit /s
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    I'll give you the same advice everyone gives healers.

    If you want to do more DPS, go play a different role.
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    I'll give you the same advice everyone gives healers.

    If you want to do more DPS, go play a different role.
    That's a great advice. Did this and I've been having fun with the game.
    The only downside is that you won't be able to play physical ranged and have fun anymore.
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