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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    I think we all acknowledge that there are people who like current healers, that's why a lot of proposed designs are made with the current playstyle in mind.

    But there's absolutely no way you can prove that more people love healers the way they are now than before, because you haven't factored in people who main a certain job and will play that job no matter what changes happen to it.

    The only data point we have access to (Luckybancho's survey) shows that the percentage of healers have decreased over time, it remains to be seen if it will continue to decrease, but SE should clearly have this data too.

    Again, you're arguing from the perspective that SE has a plan and are objectively correct according to the data, but we don't know that, you don't know that. So why is it that we're disingenuous? We don't even know if returning SCH to SB would decrease the population, it might even increase the population.
    I did say maybe, but from a a simple numbers POV if a lot of people hated healers wouldn't queues be the point where it is borderline unplayable? I am not saying the plan SE has is objectively correct, I am saying SE has a plan that may just very well not fit within what we want from healers and even the game as a whole. What I am saying is SE has clearly has a vision, if that vision has a place for me as a healer player or not is up for debate but to think they don't have a vision because they don't tell us is silly. Doesn't it show that FFXIV in general is in decline just like any long standing MMO?

    In my view if something has been changed asking for the change to be reverted is disingenuous because it shits on those that may enjoy that aspect for what it is in this moment and ignores the fact that for whatever reason the change from what it was before must have happened to why it is the way it is now. Just how I was raised I guess.

    Sure we don't have the data points but we do have a point in history where healers were changed from something akin to what a group of people are asking for now. That change happened for some reason we cannot deny that, and I think it is silly to pretend that change did not happen or it happened in some vacuum that holds no merit what so ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Nope, even in Savage and Ultimate, you will still be spending 75%+ of your GCDs on damage. If you weren't, you would just be standing around picking your nose.
    During prog? Maybe I am trash but nah I do not feel that is the case, after the fight is mapped out and it is optimized sure but at that is bound to happen once you get use to the fight. Just like when you start to gear up a fight becomes easier that is just the nature of progression.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    I wish the people who clearly enjoyed healer played it more so my DPS queues weren't as long
    Right now my queue is around 15 min as a DPS that is not horrible in my opinion. DPS queues will always be longer that is a problem across the board when it comes to any trinity based game. Generally speaking you always have more DPS players than healers or tanks I cannot think of one MMO that I have played where dps out paced tank and healers by a large margin.
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    Last edited by Bobby66; 07-24-2024 at 12:30 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.