Difficulty of normal content.

[SamLeens]

What really annoys me in this forum is the willingness to bury other players when things don't go the way you want them to.

Instead of giving some encouragement to an insecure player who is now complaining about the difficulty, they are downright ridiculed and dragged through the mud.

And on the other hand, all the players who are happy about the increased difficulty level are selfish twats who have no idea and for whom there's already enough content anyway, so they'd rather keep their mouths shut. even though among these people are the very players who would help you master the challenge of the new difficulty level..

I myself have a brain that doesn't process information as quickly as it should. That's why it takes me much longer to learn new things, but, and I say this to everyone who is against the new level of difficulty, i'm ready to learn. Are you ready to expand your horizons? Have you all sat down and tried it out for a while?

Anyway, the topic isn't really one. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Yoshida-san said in an interview 4 months ago that "So from now on, we’ll keep working to surprise players and go beyond what they imagine. But that reminds me of something I regret… as we’ve continued to operate FF14, we’ve made the game more comfortable, a game you can play without stress. But looking back on the last 10 years, I’m thinking we’ve overdone that a bit." https://www.ign.com/articles/final-f...-going-forward

I don't think they will give in immediately, and that's why i don't understand why some people here make statements like "the difficulty level is good and it must be prevented at all costs and by all means that the difficulty is lowered again!"

[Blacksuit00]

What really annoys me in this forum is the willingness to bury other players when things don't go the way you want them to.

Instead of giving some encouragement to an insecure player who is now complaining about the difficulty, they are downright ridiculed and dragged through the mud.

And on the other hand, all the players who are happy about the increased difficulty are selfish twats who have no idea and for whom there is enough content anyway, so they'd rather keep their mouths shut.

I myself have a brain that doesn't process information as quickly as it should. That's why it takes me much longer to learn new things, but, and I say this to everyone who is against the new level of difficulty, i'm ready to learn. Are you ready to expand your horizons? Have you all sat down and tried it out for a while?

Anyway, the topic isn't really one. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Yoshida-san said in an interview 4 months ago that "So from now on, we’ll keep working to surprise players and go beyond what they imagine. But that reminds me of something I regret… as we’ve continued to operate FF14, we’ve made the game more comfortable, a game you can play without stress. But looking back on the last 10 years, I’m thinking we’ve overdone that a bit." https://www.ign.com/articles/final-f...-going-forward

I don't think they will give in immediately, and that's why i don't understand why there are statements like "the difficulty level is good and it must be prevented at all costs and by all means that the difficulty is lowered again!"

I want you to understand that we’ve been dealing with easy braindead low level content since stormblood and it got progressively worse and worse with each expansion and it climaxed in endwalker where it was so bad that even yoshi said that the shit has gotten ridiculous.

Now. What the op has said was hard is the first boss in Alexandria…..did you know that the 1st boss in Alexandria has 2 mechanics, that’s right…….2. Single. Mechanics. One that all you do is dodge stuff and the 2nd all you do is stack and stand there while the tank takes a tank buster………that’s it, that’s what op thinks is difficult.

So if op thinks that’s difficult and wants a change from this “ difficulty “ can you imagine how braindead they actually want the content to be?

[SamLeens]

I want you to understand that we’ve been dealing with easy braindead low level content since stormblood and it got progressively worse and worse with each expansion and it climaxed in endwalker where it was so bad that even yoshi said that the shit has gotten ridiculous.

Now. What the op has said was hard is the first boss in Alexandria…..did you know that the 1st boss in Alexandria has 2 mechanics, that’s right…….2. Single. Mechanics. One that all you do is dodge stuff and the 2nd all you do is stack and stand there while the tank takes a tank buster………that’s it, that’s what op thinks is difficult.

So if op thinks that’s difficult and wants a change from this “ difficulty “ can you imagine how braindead they actually want the content to be?

Antivirus X has 3 mechanics. at least in the way i count them. 1) go in the middle, or on the side of the boss for the tentacle attacks. 2) + and O. 3) Tankbust and stackmark.

The thing is,i'm not in a position (and i dare say no one is) to tell someone whether their feelings are right or wrong. I accept that it's hard for some people. I don't have to agree, but i accept it and don't question it. What i can do is encourage the person and also try to make them understand that they don't have to be put off by 10 deaths and 4 wipes. Any change takes time.

[VioletCatastrophe]

What really annoys me in this forum is the willingness to bury other players when things don't go the way you want them to.

Personally, I've been extremely curt this entire time, but also always encouraged people to do their best and improve regardless of whatever barriers they may or may not have.

If having a disdain for people spending more time complaining on the forums than trying to actually learn the content is dragging people through the mud and being a selfish twat, then okay, sure I guess. I don't mind playing the role of the villain, it doesn't bother me. I just find it really tedious to see people acting like this content is unmanageable. It is not. It has been out for not even a week! We lack gear, we lack experience as a playerbase, and yes the difficulty has increased but by a reasonable amount that one would expect from rising expectations of the player base.

What I want, is for these people to calm down a little bit and work on being better. I've given plenty of bits of actionable advice during this whole disaster, and in general asking for help and support in a social game like an MMO is kind of to be expected. It just feels like these people are seeing the tiniest bit of pushback from the game and immediately instead of considering the possibility of needing to improve they instantly jump to blaming the game. It's frankly embarrassing, and entitled. I know the term entitled gets thrown around a lot, but I mean it in all sincerity and weight. They feel entitled to clear the content without any challenge whatsoever, and without any effort on their part to be good enough for the content to not be challenging.

Personally, if it were me, I think they didn't go far enough. But... I also recognize that I'm a better player than most, that my skill levels aren't representative of the majority of the casual playerbase, and that expert dungeons don't challenge me is fine and honestly expected. I'm glad they are at least non-trivial now. It feels less mind numbing to do expert roulettes for tomes than it did before. The normal raids are also well balanced. The timings are generous, the telegraphing is pretty damn clear, the tutorialization of mechanics is extremely solid. My raid group didn't wipe to the bosses when doing them, but I at least didn't feel completely safe the entire time. There is nothing that puts undue responsibility on any one player (beyond the responsibility of a role). I firmly believe an average PF group going in completely blind can clear it in one lockout - which is exactly the balance point that normal raids aim for.

Basically, I think the complaints are completely unfounded, and I think players just need to believe in themselves a little bit more and stop worrying so much about wipes. We all start somewhere. If you love this game to want it to be better, then love the game enough to be better too. I believe in you all.

[SamLeens]

I've said it to someone else before: "I'm not in a position to tell someone if their feeling is right or wrong." But, and i have to add this here,i also see that the complaints come in very quickly, and yes, it hasn't even been a week.

i have the least patience with myself and am very quick to blame myself. For me, it's never the game's fault. But i can imagine some players even feeling left out because they don't know how to approach this new challenge. They go to the forum and they're told to just get better and not be so whiny because the content isn't that hard.

i think both sides need to calm down and more patience would be a good thing too.
Are they really completely unfounded? Can you speak for every single player?