Feedback: Dawntrail MSQ dungeon difficulty

[Shadow_Darkmoon]

Don't lose hope and learn. The good thing about ff14 fights are they have so little rng you can literally learn to predict what you need to do over time. At the worst of cases you can stop pressing buttons foresee you need to be at xyz spot in 5 seconds move there beforehand and then start pressing buttons again.
If you're trying to learn to just react to things of course 14 is a bad game for that just because of how snapshotting works. It's better to learn how to premove correctly on all the mechanics.

I never stopped to look at it this way, I just got frustrated thinking I just can't do it, so i haven't played in a few days, I am going to go into it and just run around and not fight, to try and learn the fight. Such a good idea idk why I didn't think it was an option.
My Anxiety just kept telling me you suck, you can't do it just give up, and the people commenting reiterated what my Anxiety brain was telling me.
now for trials I wont be able to do that so hopefully they don't mind me floor tanking lol

I wish more people would respond like you, Instead of attacking us telling us It's Easy, get good or quit. It only makes us upset even more with our inadequacy

[VioletCatastrophe]

I never stopped to look at it this way, I just got frustrated thinking I just can't do it, so i haven't played in a few days, I am going to go into it and just run around and not fight, to try and learn the fight. Such a good idea idk why I didn't think it was an option.
now for trials I wont be able to do that so hopefully they don't mind me floor tanking lol

I wish more people would respond like you, Instead of attacking us telling us get good or quit. It only makes us upset even more with our inadequacy

When people are telling you to get good and improve, they often aren't being dismissive. Take them at face value. If you don't know how to do those things (which is fine! this game has a huge problem with teaching its players!) then ask people who have figured it out and see if that works. I know there is a tendency to think of people who are telling you to improve as looking down on you for being bad. I know it can feel really awful when you know you are relatively underperforming and you just feel like a burden. The only time in this game I ever get frustrated with a player for not being good enough is when that player is me.

The game is an MMO. Raiders are generally very passionate, and far more social than you may presume. We can't clear the raids on our own! Most raid groups are just 8 people chatting and making jokes while working through whatever fight it happens to be. We care a lot about our own performance, and improving, and love to see others share in that passion. Genuinely, don't be afraid to reach out, and if anyone does actually end up being mean just ignore them.

If I had to give my best advice, it is to stop reacting, and start predicting. Start paying attention to patterns, and thinking about how a thing can be done. Take every failed mechanic, and every wipe as a small opportunity to reflect and adjust. For example, the one time a boss killed me in the MSQ was orogenics boss 1 - it was a lot faster than I was expecting - and also I was not expecting it to repeat the same side twice... so I moved back to the center to reduce the movement needed when the tell is shown, and also used sprint just to make it a bit easier on me... and it worked. Honestly, just that attitude and perspective alone is the difference between those who do extremes+ and those who don't. Dying and wiping is fine! Don't be ashamed of it. You'll get there, I believe in you.

[Besame]

I never stopped to look at it this way, I just got frustrated thinking I just can't do it, so i haven't played in a few days, I am going to go into it and just run around and not fight, to try and learn the fight. Such a good idea idk why I didn't think it was an option.
My Anxiety just kept telling me you suck, you can't do it just give up, and the people commenting reiterated what my Anxiety brain was telling me.
now for trials I wont be able to do that so hopefully they don't mind me floor tanking lol

I wish more people would respond like you, Instead of attacking us telling us It's Easy, get good or quit. It only makes us upset even more with our inadequacy

Shadow I also had some trouble this time around with 1 of the trusts. I have found that playing a ranged DPS then following the healer around like I am almost glued to them really helps me miss the multiple ground aoe square loves so much and helps me be out of harm's way in most coming attacks. Just a tip to try if you choose. Usually works for me.