Quote Originally Posted by Dragon View Post
I cannot believe anyone would call Eve Online or L2 casual... that is just LOLZIES.



While often considered two of the hardest video games of the new generation, they don't even begin to get hard until your 3rd~4th playthrough on the same character. That's what makes the ~Souls franchise stick out: they start out easy and get harder with each playthrough (RE: actual replay, not a new character), because they definitely are not difficult in either NG or +NG for any avg. player.
You try playing halfway through the first game on dark souls as wanderer using nothing but the starter weapon (I refused to use a non katana weapon and couldn't find one till way into the game) >_>