#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[PercibelTheren]

Lastly, to the japanese playerbase, healer is an inherently inferior role, so it is correct and natural to keep it in its place.

I'm still utterly bewildered by this. Why healer? The role that is traditionally tasked with keeping everyone else alive. DPS is right there, that's the "I don't want responsibility" role unless you're doing something with enrage. Otherwise, you can manage to not press your buttons and you're still fine, the fight just takes longer.

[Aravell]

The Japanese base is more likely to be more agreeable with the japanese company. As well as the fanbase's culture of rejecting criticism in all forms, and the intensity of japanese conformity culture.
Like the rest, the view is that Square can do do wrong and it's their job to justify it.
Lastly, to the japanese playerbase, healer is an inherently inferior role, so it is correct and natural to keep it in its place.

I wouldn't jump on the JP playerbase for this. The unsatisfied ones are very likely not airing their grievances on a moderated forum (because theirs is moderated, unlike ours).

If you want a better unfiltered read on what they think about the job design, try 2ch.

[Silver-Strider]

Repose is useless on most bosses over level 50 and I honestly don't see that changing.

Hilariously, the turtle mob before the last boss in Orgenics IS affected by Repose to stop his AoE attack.

[Rolder50]

I wouldn't jump on the JP playerbase for this. The unsatisfied ones are very likely not airing their grievances on a moderated forum (because theirs is moderated, unlike ours).

If you want a better unfiltered read on what they think about the job design, try 2ch.

Someone linked the 2ch opinion on the story in some other thread and hoooo buddy there were some spicy takes

[KisaiTenshi]

Playing only DPS in XIV but healer in other MMOs really shows to me that XIV players really aren't mmo players.

Nay, it's the reverse. Japanese and Korean MMO's don't do strict class adherance, and tie the entire role to one character model. So you end up in a game that either has too many DPS and not enough healers, or a game with too many healers and not enough DPS because the character models aren't pretty enough.

Meanwhile Western MMO's are universally ugly, and do strict class adherance (dual classing at most due to them nearly all being based on DnD.) Which means that Western MMO's usually spend very little of their budget on the art, regardless if they are large or small (look at a game called "Dark and Darker" to give you an idea) and instead focus on the mechanics

I am so used to DPS in other MMOs helping out through buffs, mitigations and aggro control but in XIV they literally just DPS, Its pretty boring.

The difference with XIV, and probably only XIV is that it blends elements that would make sense in an Action RPG with elements that only work in a turn based TRPG. So the consequences of this is that you have players who don't like to play with other players because of the play style differences. So you get the Western player base who wants every class to be a melee DPS like how Western CRPG's work, and the Japanese player base who wants every job to adhere to it's role like you'd expect in Asian MMORPG's.

There is no middle ground that will make both player bases happy, and the Japanese player base generally agrees with the direction Square-Enix takes the game because it's a Japanese "Final Fantasy" game at it's heart, and people trying to turn it into WoW, or Fortnite, or ESO, or Fallout76, or anything else will just be kind of looked at funny. "If you want to play X game, play X game."

It's true, healing has become boring. It's become boring because the game has become essentially what all Asian MMO's become, a game where only DPS matters, even though other roles are available, you're basically committing to playing that role because the game is fundamentally broken balance wise in getting enough players to want to play all roles. Players only queue as healer because the queue is nearly instant, not because they want to play healer. Players only queue as tank because it's pretty much guaranteed a bonus, no other reason. So the result is you get a lot of people who play Tank and Healer at low skill levels because they treat it as a DPS.

[Kozmakis]

Man, that's kinda sad that WoW is paying more attention to its players than XIV is, considering that game's recent history.

They are now, because they lost a lot of players by not listening and making the game a chore in the past 2 expansions. It used to be super time-consuming, you were required to do certain content to get legendary gear even if you didn't like it, otherwise you were powercrept by others and nobody would take you in a group. So you had to do stuff for hours before you could play the game the way you like it.

That's one of FFXIV's biggest competitive edges in my opinion, it's respects people's time... That being said, WoW is changing, a new expansion is coming in a little over a month and as much as I enjoy the DPS job, I miss being a healer... and no, not a Dosis spammer.

I am hoping SE will start communicating soon on this matter, it is almost impossible they haven't heard about it by now. If they didn't or they decide to ignore it, then their ego's might have become too big and a wave of subscription cancellations might be the slap they need, just like it happened to Blizzard...

[Magikazam]

There is no middle ground that will make both player bases happy, and the Japanese player base generally agrees with the direction Square-Enix takes the game because it's a Japanese "Final Fantasy" game at it's heart, and people trying to turn it into WoW, or Fortnite, or ESO, or Fallout76, or anything else will just be kind of looked at funny. "If you want to play X game, play X game."

Idk I find it to be a weird argument from JP. Healer used to be different. It feel very hypocritical of them to tell other to ''go play another game'' when they are the reason the role changed in the first place. Why don't they go play another game?

[Kes13a]

I am hoping SE will start communicating soon on this matter, it is almost impossible they haven't heard about it by now. If they didn't or they decide to ignore it, then their ego's might have become too big and a wave of subscription cancellations might be the slap they need, just like it happened to Blizzard...

thats my hope as well. I want to stay in FFXIV, generally, I enjoy the world, I enjoy the look, I enjoy everything on one character. I enjoy healing when I get to do it, not so much into dps, but if I feel dps-y, I can switch to a different job for that.

do I expect a 180 degree about face? not at all. thats unrealistic. what would be nice is actual communication one way or the other. Yoshi P saying "oops, we may have gone too far" is nice and all, but I want something a bit more concrete than "wait and see what happens in 8.0!!!!"

we need to know if there is room in the lifeboat for healers, or if we are going down with the ship, and SE is the only entity that can answer that.

[Kes13a]

Man, that's kinda sad that WoW is paying more attention to its players than XIV is, considering that game's recent history.

you know... a thought occurred to me. what if Blizzard isnt listening to its players... but seeing the issue there.. and making this announcement to try and lure some of its players back from FFXIV? wont work for me, I have no interest in WoW anymore, but it does kind of read like "HEY! we value our healing community! come play with us, we want your $15 a month...."

[Kozmakis]

you know... a thought occurred to me. what if Blizzard isnt listening to its players... but seeing the issue there.. and making this announcement to try and lure some of its players back from FFXIV? wont work for me, I have no interest in WoW anymore, but it does kind of read like "HEY! we value our healing community! come play with us, we want your $15 a month...."

In my workplace, I do researches from time to time and they usually show that in a subscription business, it's easier to re-acquire a lapsed subscriber than someone brand new to the product. It drives higher lifetime value (LTV), and that's a key metric for retention, as retention drives up to 20x more revenue than acquisition. (varies per industry) So yeah, if they are doing that, I'd say it is a smart move!