Frontlines sucks Ultra megathread

[Apowowo]

I think it's a pretty fun mode, all things considered... A lot of entertainment for sure;

that being, I can't find the exact post but I vividly remember someone saying who wanted to get better at pvp-frontline will be very discouraged by the current state of frontline and with all the premade. I'd argue it was the opposite effect in fact, I know a fair share of players who never really enjoyed frontline that much and really got into it as they learnt how to position themselves, what comps are good, what to priotize etc and definitely enjoyed the sweatier games... Of course it's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's not driving every single players away

[Mawlzy]

I think it's a pretty fun mode, all things considered... A lot of entertainment for sure;

that being, I can't find the exact post but I vividly remember someone saying who wanted to get better at pvp-frontline will be very discouraged by the current state of frontline and with all the premade. I'd argue it was the opposite effect in fact, I know a fair share of players who never really enjoyed frontline that much and really got into it as they learnt how to position themselves, what comps are good, what to priotize etc and definitely enjoyed the sweatier games... Of course it's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's not driving every single players away

That's completely fair. Some people do like a sweatier environment and/or simply value mounts and glam and want to get there as quickly as possible by maximizing their win-rate.

The issue is that many people do not feel like that. The solo and party styles and goals are simply very different, and forcing them together in what is supposed to be a casual entry into PvP in general is causing a lot of friction.

[Mawlzy]

To add to that, people who do enjoy the premade playstyle naturally congregate on the Discord servers where such premades are formed via the LFG and voice channels. In other words, they are immersed in an echo chamber of like-minded individuals where everyone agrees that this playstyle is wonderful.

This is why I've previously attributed the current issues partly to a SM problem. If you're surrounded by a group of people who like a given playstyle and laud the commanders producing it, it becomes difficult to understand that there is a wider community that does not like the playstyle one bit, and their resulting hostility to said commanders.