Frontlines sucks Ultra megathread

[Mawlzy]

With or without people queue sniping her?

Does she really get queue sniped! Blimey. How rude. As I think you know, I've settled on avoidance as the best policy. Anyway, it's immaterial, SQEX knows already.

Where have you been? Haven't seen you in Aether matches for ages.

[Archeron]

I have been battling these premade cheaters for over a year. I know who they are and most of their cheats. I report them when i can. I get so much hatred from Fl because i point out the obvious cheaters. There are so many cheat apologists its really sad. I will keep fighting and reporting them when i can.

I strongly doubt that there is any cheating coming from premades. They don't need to cheat. They just communicate via voice chat and coordinate their 4 party members to wipe 20+ people at once. Auto-Recuperate, Auto guard, ect whatever you seem to accuse people of on a given day wouldn't help them even if they had it. This game runs on Spahghetti code, like it or not theres a several second delay between your action being cast, and the server deciding when it actually goes off. It doesn't help anybody to make accusations against premades without direct, indisputable proof of them cheating.

I mean honestly has anyone EVER seen cheating in PVP here firsthand who has proof of it? I've seen the videos of speed hacks in Crystaline conflict, and multiboxxers trolling people with MCH lb... but I can't say I've seen anything that is obvious firsthand.

[Mawlzy]

I strongly doubt that there is any cheating coming from premades. They don't need to cheat. They just communicate via voice chat and coordinate their 4 party members to wipe 20+ people at once. Auto-Recuperate, Auto guard, ect whatever you seem to accuse people of on a given day wouldn't help them even if they had it. This game runs on Spahghetti code, like it or not theres a several second delay between your action being cast, and the server deciding when it actually goes off. It doesn't help anybody to make accusations against premades without direct, indisputable proof of them cheating.

I mean honestly has anyone EVER seen cheating in PVP here firsthand who has proof of it? I've seen the videos of speed hacks in Crystaline conflict, and multiboxxers trolling people with MCH lb... but I can't say I've seen anything that is obvious firsthand.

Yeah when you've solved the meta and have voice available as a cherry on top, thereby producing 70%+ win-rates, it seems unlikely premade members would risk their accounts by using additional cheats. It's not clear to me whether such cheating tools would even be capable of increasing that % much higher given the limitations produced by RNG.

I'd be far more concerned about padders, particularly those who are keen to share their K/D/A, but most of them are in premades anyway.

That said, if there's one thing FL in general and this thread in particular has taught me, it's that some players put an incredible premium on win-rate and other personal stats, whether it be for faster rewards or just as a trophy. In any competitive environment, that attitude can lead to cheating. So my guess is it exists at some level in FL as it does everywhere else.

I did have a stationary WHM go completely invuln the other day. I targeted them and all my skills just quit working. Someone next to me was having the same issue. I assumed it was some glitch, like their image got stuck there but they'd actually DC'd or something. Quite odd.

[Archeron]

Yeah when you've solved the meta and have voice available as a cherry on top, thereby producing 70%+ win-rates, it seems unlikely premade members would risk their accounts by using additional cheats. It's not clear to me whether such cheating tools would even be capable of increasing that % much higher given the limitations produced by RNG.

I'd be far more concerned about padders, particularly those who are keen to share their K/D/A, but most of them are in premades anyway.

That said, if there's one thing FL in general and this thread in particular has taught me, it's that some players put an incredible premium on win-rate and other personal stats, whether it be for faster rewards or just as a trophy. In any competitive environment, that attitude can lead to cheating. So my guess is it exists at some level in FL as it does everywhere else.

I did have a stationary WHM go completely invuln the other day. I targeted them and all my skills just quit working. Someone next to me was having the same issue. I assumed it was some glitch, like their image got stuck there but they'd actually DC'd or something. Quite odd.

The stationary people I believe are just invuln due to DC, they seem to go away after 30 seconds in my experience.

It takes someone pretty damn lame at this game to load up cheats, especially for frontlines when the solution is pretty much "git gud". Good players don't need auto recuperate/purify ect.

I am very curious to see if anyone has literally ever had a case of cheating that was easy to pick out. (Like flying under the map, invulnerable, avoiding status afflictions ect.) I've never seen any instances of it personally, I'm curious to see if anyone else has ever seen this. I assume the first people who would be able to spot a cheater would be the premades since they'd notice the one person escaping all of their dives when they should rightfully be dead, or at the very least caught up in a load of CC and afflictions.

[Aravell]

The stationary people I believe are just invuln due to DC, they seem to go away after 30 seconds in my experience.

It takes someone pretty damn lame at this game to load up cheats, especially for frontlines when the solution is pretty much "git gud". Good players don't need auto recuperate/purify ect.

I am very curious to see if anyone has literally ever had a case of cheating that was easy to pick out. (Like flying under the map, invulnerable, avoiding status afflictions ect.) I've never seen any instances of it personally, I'm curious to see if anyone else has ever seen this. I assume the first people who would be able to spot a cheater would be the premades since they'd notice the one person escaping all of their dives when they should rightfully be dead, or at the very least caught up in a load of CC and afflictions.

I have seen a very subtle cheater in RW during a mogtome event.

What they did isn't mega obvious to anyone new to the mode, but they used a speedhack to make the Oppressor move at the same speed as a Cruise Chaser. So they're not just speeding down the map, but they were moving slightly faster than Sprint speed.

As for people who just stand there and your skills get cancelled, they're in the middle of reconnecting. Once the load screen appears for them, you can damage them because the game treats them as connected at that point.

[Mawlzy]

I have seen a very subtle cheater in RW during a mogtome event.

What they did isn't mega obvious to anyone new to the mode, but they used a speedhack to make the Oppressor move at the same speed as a Cruise Chaser. So they're not just speeding down the map, but they were moving slightly faster than Sprint speed.

As for people who just stand there and your skills get cancelled, they're in the middle of reconnecting. Once the load screen appears for them, you can damage them because the game treats them as connected at that point.

Yeah that was my guess.

As to cheating, the tools are available, but some are more obvious than others: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skO4Hucmlvo

https://youtu.be/sXlzYhvlOdQ?si=dIHFaRF2y6nvH5aT

Also found this interesting: https://youtu.be/kt6L576BCwc?si=Z5OxjUIaL3HD1NdO

[Xael_Jehuty]

I mean honestly has anyone EVER seen cheating in PVP here firsthand who has proof of it? I've seen the videos of speed hacks in Crystaline conflict, and multiboxxers trolling people with MCH lb... but I can't say I've seen anything that is obvious firsthand.[/QUOTE]

Seen two videos of them that have taken place in frontline. Played with the guy once before I knew he was using anti MNK LB cheats. Few days later another video came out of a DRK diving on an enemy team and then floating away. Bizarre stuff

[Mawlzy]

Seen two videos of them that have taken place in frontline. Played with the guy once before I knew he was using anti MNK LB cheats. Few days later another video came out of a DRK diving on an enemy team and then floating away. Bizarre stuff

Glad it's a rarity, obviously.

[OliviaLugria]

Right, now that dust has settled and we're approaching FL reset, maybe Olivia would like to share with us her win-rate for the past week?

It was quite high

[Mawlzy]

It was quite high

Yes, honey. So I gathered.

Congrats on the latest deal with your guide, btw. I understand Paramount [1] picked up the option as a combined Frontline/biopic full feature! At Resistance HQ we are currently running a pool on who gets the lead role! I got Amber Heard!

[1] For distribution inquiries, please write to Molly van der Sprinkel, Paramount Studios, 5515 Melrose Ave Los Angeles, CA 90038 USA.