Frontlines sucks Ultra megathread

[tsuchii]

f whoever made the new frontline tbh
it's the f worst by far
and a f mount is locked in it
im so mad at it
its f horrible
frontline should just be deleted entirely

[tsuchii]

who asks for new frontlines?
who woke up and be like oh lets make another garbage frontline mode
goddamn it

[Atreus]

I don't think it's bad that they continue to add maps to Frontline, but it is perplexing that the we still don't have Astragalos back.

[ThreeBeastSmile]

f whoever made the new frontline tbh
it's the f worst by far
and a f mount is locked in it
im so mad at it
its f horrible
frontline should just be deleted entirely

who asks for new frontlines?
who woke up and be like oh lets make another garbage frontline mode
goddamn it

You're mad a pretty uggo mount is gated behind content you've expressed an abject hatred for before, and now. Hmm. Dunno man but kind of a no brainer on what to do there. Really there are more attractive mounts anywhere you look around imo. Unless it matters that much cuz "muh collection" be hurtin'. Eh. It'll just come eventually anyway even at a slower pace.

Who asks? I'd imagine a fair few JP do if you take the time to comb their forums. It's not a universally vilified a thing as you may think. What we need is more variety, not less. So new maps are appreciated... when they're not designed so lazily, or d*cked around with unnecessarily when it comes to the current lineup.

If anything your sentiments could be more applicable to CC than FL, as who really asks for more of those when there are maps that are actively boycotted by some especially choicy players.

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Ah yes Astralagos, again... can we just have that opened up with the warts and all? I really don't think that many will care about that ol' map advantage discrepancy tbh, if that many even remember that line of reasoning. It's just ridiculous now.

[Valence]

I've always been of a kindly sort with casual players, but there is casual and there is griefer. In today's FL game seeing that literally half my team sitting back on a backwater node one after another while letting the rest of us fight and die even when asked to come and assist, we ended the game under 8min (this wasn't Worqor!), and half the team sure enough had below 4 assists while everybody that participated at least 15-20. I don't even want to imagine what the third team was about because they ended beating us on lethargic play and we ended up second (100/300/700 pts).

Honestly depressing because I don't know what could be done to prevent griefing like this, reporting for lethargic behavior, especially with EU GMs, seems like a long shot, especially if you have to report half the team. Perhaps people that are asking that the daily xp reward from FLs be removed are right.

[tsuchii]

A typical Worqor match:

- 2 teams sweat out with 1200 points each. Both stuck in battle.
- 3rd team with 700 sweeps all the S rank that spawns a million miles away on their side. Free to take because the two top teams are zerging each other.
- Player vs player my butt. More like Player vs Pavement.

Awful

[Aidorouge]

Ah... the old classic of my team harassing 3rd place, right up to their spawn even while they had zero points, always excusing it as "mah battle high" even though they spent half of the match ACTIVELY avoiding 1st place. Then when they FINALLY decide to engage 1st place when the scores got closer... guess who 3rd place spent the rest of the match pinching at every turn to make sure they eventually secured 2nd place for themselves while my team got hard-swapped into 3rd?

People need to start remembering that "as long as they lose" is a powerful motivator, and that teams WILL prioritize vendettas over winning.

[tsuchii]

If they really want players to PVP, they should just remove the variable points in fucking Worqor objectives. RNG deciding the winning match is just NEITHER FUN NOR FAIR AT ALL.

[spoo]

Ah... the old classic of my team harassing 3rd place, right up to their spawn even while they had zero points, always excusing it as "mah battle high" even though they spent half of the match ACTIVELY avoiding 1st place. Then when they FINALLY decide to engage 1st place when the scores got closer... guess who 3rd place spent the rest of the match pinching at every turn to make sure they eventually secured 2nd place for themselves while my team got hard-swapped into 3rd?

People need to start remembering that "as long as they lose" is a powerful motivator, and that teams WILL prioritize vendettas over winning.

you missed a point. the key to success in FL is to split up the moment the gates open. That way you give the other teams the lead ahead, then only try to address the issue when the winning team is 50 points form winning. Until then, just watch your teammate get jumped while on your unicorn mount.

[MayuAmakura]

I'm really tired of doing any frontlines now because team that has tanks / premade tanks is just going to get a free win every single time. No matter how much damage you have, it will be negated due to rampant and other defensive abilities. All of them are super oppressive and hard to beat.