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    I have been battling these premade cheaters for over a year. I know who they are and most of their cheats. I report them when i can. I get so much hatred from Fl because i point out the obvious cheaters. There are so many cheat apologists its really sad. I will keep fighting and reporting them when i can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader1 View Post
    I have been battling these premade cheaters for over a year. I know who they are and most of their cheats. I report them when i can. I get so much hatred from Fl because i point out the obvious cheaters. There are so many cheat apologists its really sad. I will keep fighting and reporting them when i can.
    Nah, and in all objective honesty, you're just not as good as you think you are. Besides, how do you know what "cheats" and "plugins" people are using if you aren't using them yourself? I'm assuming that you just look them up so you can "know" what people are using and apply that knowledge to what you see in game? But truth be told, at least we know you don't use them because you'll spend five minutes per match rambling about the same things over and over again.

    A complete joke both in game and out. Thanks for the ongoing entertainment, I suppose.
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    awe, did i strike a nerve? awe.
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    Edwin Vancleef
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader1 View Post
    I have been battling these premade cheaters for over a year. I know who they are and most of their cheats. I report them when i can. I get so much hatred from Fl because i point out the obvious cheaters. There are so many cheat apologists its really sad. I will keep fighting and reporting them when i can.
    I strongly doubt that there is any cheating coming from premades. They don't need to cheat. They just communicate via voice chat and coordinate their 4 party members to wipe 20+ people at once. Auto-Recuperate, Auto guard, ect whatever you seem to accuse people of on a given day wouldn't help them even if they had it. This game runs on Spahghetti code, like it or not theres a several second delay between your action being cast, and the server deciding when it actually goes off. It doesn't help anybody to make accusations against premades without direct, indisputable proof of them cheating.

    I mean honestly has anyone EVER seen cheating in PVP here firsthand who has proof of it? I've seen the videos of speed hacks in Crystaline conflict, and multiboxxers trolling people with MCH lb... but I can't say I've seen anything that is obvious firsthand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    I strongly doubt that there is any cheating coming from premades. They don't need to cheat. They just communicate via voice chat and coordinate their 4 party members to wipe 20+ people at once. Auto-Recuperate, Auto guard, ect whatever you seem to accuse people of on a given day wouldn't help them even if they had it. This game runs on Spahghetti code, like it or not theres a several second delay between your action being cast, and the server deciding when it actually goes off. It doesn't help anybody to make accusations against premades without direct, indisputable proof of them cheating.

    I mean honestly has anyone EVER seen cheating in PVP here firsthand who has proof of it? I've seen the videos of speed hacks in Crystaline conflict, and multiboxxers trolling people with MCH lb... but I can't say I've seen anything that is obvious firsthand.
    Yeah when you've solved the meta and have voice available as a cherry on top, thereby producing 70%+ win-rates, it seems unlikely premade members would risk their accounts by using additional cheats. It's not clear to me whether such cheating tools would even be capable of increasing that % much higher given the limitations produced by RNG.

    I'd be far more concerned about padders, particularly those who are keen to share their K/D/A, but most of them are in premades anyway.

    That said, if there's one thing FL in general and this thread in particular has taught me, it's that some players put an incredible premium on win-rate and other personal stats, whether it be for faster rewards or just as a trophy. In any competitive environment, that attitude can lead to cheating. So my guess is it exists at some level in FL as it does everywhere else.

    I did have a stationary WHM go completely invuln the other day. I targeted them and all my skills just quit working. Someone next to me was having the same issue. I assumed it was some glitch, like their image got stuck there but they'd actually DC'd or something. Quite odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Yeah when you've solved the meta and have voice available as a cherry on top, thereby producing 70%+ win-rates, it seems unlikely premade members would risk their accounts by using additional cheats. It's not clear to me whether such cheating tools would even be capable of increasing that % much higher given the limitations produced by RNG.

    I'd be far more concerned about padders, particularly those who are keen to share their K/D/A, but most of them are in premades anyway.

    That said, if there's one thing FL in general and this thread in particular has taught me, it's that some players put an incredible premium on win-rate and other personal stats, whether it be for faster rewards or just as a trophy. In any competitive environment, that attitude can lead to cheating. So my guess is it exists at some level in FL as it does everywhere else.

    I did have a stationary WHM go completely invuln the other day. I targeted them and all my skills just quit working. Someone next to me was having the same issue. I assumed it was some glitch, like their image got stuck there but they'd actually DC'd or something. Quite odd.
    The stationary people I believe are just invuln due to DC, they seem to go away after 30 seconds in my experience.

    It takes someone pretty damn lame at this game to load up cheats, especially for frontlines when the solution is pretty much "git gud". Good players don't need auto recuperate/purify ect.

    I am very curious to see if anyone has literally ever had a case of cheating that was easy to pick out. (Like flying under the map, invulnerable, avoiding status afflictions ect.) I've never seen any instances of it personally, I'm curious to see if anyone else has ever seen this. I assume the first people who would be able to spot a cheater would be the premades since they'd notice the one person escaping all of their dives when they should rightfully be dead, or at the very least caught up in a load of CC and afflictions.
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    I mean honestly has anyone EVER seen cheating in PVP here firsthand who has proof of it? I've seen the videos of speed hacks in Crystaline conflict, and multiboxxers trolling people with MCH lb... but I can't say I've seen anything that is obvious firsthand.[/QUOTE]

    Seen two videos of them that have taken place in frontline. Played with the guy once before I knew he was using anti MNK LB cheats. Few days later another video came out of a DRK diving on an enemy team and then floating away. Bizarre stuff
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    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xael_Jehuty View Post

    Seen two videos of them that have taken place in frontline. Played with the guy once before I knew he was using anti MNK LB cheats. Few days later another video came out of a DRK diving on an enemy team and then floating away. Bizarre stuff
    Glad it's a rarity, obviously.
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