Quote Originally Posted by Zaaku View Post
Did you just say EVE had casual play. That game is more brutal and unforgiving then FFXI! lol

Lineage II as well. Nether of those examples show long term benefits towards simplifying everything. In fact it has shown just the opposite. IF you make the world in which the players... well plays in. He will stick around longer because his time invested meant something. Gave him purpose and more reason to keep playing.
If you're going to bait and switch than have a serious debate then don't bother arguing, especially when you deny irrefutable facts when they're presented to you.