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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    If Trusts for trials had been a thing back then, SE would have set up the plot in a way that 7 NPCs would be present. How? Thats just a matter of literary freedom at this point since we're talking about a story that has already been written, but I've no doubt they would have had them be present for some reason or another, good or bad. That could very well have meant the story added some able-bodied NPCs leading up to Susano or the Scions not being yeeted back home early for Endsinger and the narrative changing accordingly.
    So therefore do you acknowledge that the narrative is important for who's accompanying you via the Trust system for trials?

    I appreciate it's something they only implemented from SHB and it would be difficult to go back and implement it for all HW to SB trials, especially for several where there's no real viable way narratively to have 7 NPCs around you to do the trial with. It would have been nice to have and I have no problem with the Trust system as an actual system, something which the majority of people haven't seemed to grasp yet and I have explicitly said it's great for dungeons. It's simply the execution of it narratively for the Trials that it hasn't worked cohesively in Dawntrail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeteorShan View Post
    So therefore do you acknowledge that the narrative is important for who's accompanying you via the Trust system for trials?

    I appreciate it's something they only implemented from SHB and it would be difficult to go back and implement it for all HW to SB trials, especially for several where there's no real viable way narratively to have 7 NPCs around you to do the trial with. It would have been nice to have and I have no problem with the Trust system as an actual system, something which the majority of people haven't seemed to grasp yet and I have explicitly said it's great for dungeons. It's simply the execution of it narratively for the Trials that it hasn't worked cohesively in Dawntrail.
    Yes, for any Trials they implement the Trust system for the NPCs used should be NPCs that are present at that point in the story, the reason they are present being a good one is up to the writers. But having said that, I would still prefer flimsy narrative reasons for present NPCs being involved in the fight over Azem random people pulled from the void.

    Given the option of removing Trusts from Trials or leaving them and having SE improve. I would always choose the latter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Yes, for any Trials they implement the Trust system for the NPCs used should be NPCs that are present at that point in the story, the reason they are present being a good one is up to the writers. But having said that, I would still prefer flimsy narrative reasons for present NPCs being involved in the fight over Azem random people pulled from the void.

    Given the option of removing Trusts from Trials or leaving them and having SE improve. I would always choose the latter.
    I would like SE to improve too, but there has been a worrying trend of writing since 6.1 and if the narrative quality doesn't improve then I would prefer they scrap the Trust system for Trials moving forwards.

    If, however, SE does improve their quality of writing and build up to trials then I have absolutely no problem with the Trust system being there for future trials if the narrative warrants it. Alas though, there does need to be a course correction in this regard.
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