Remove Trust System from future Trials

[Supersnow845]

"Trusts totally break my immersion, since characters come out of no where!"

...you mean like the random adventurers we've spent the majority of the game doing trails with? 'cause the Warrior of Light, canonically, only soloed solo instances.

Yes but in that case the characters actually canonically don’t exist

The trust problem comes because the scions who are going to make up your party always show up like 2 quests before the trial than randomly disappear afterwards, like imagine if thancred, uriangier, yshtola and alphinaud showed up randomly to Susano even though only lyse and alisaie were actually in the far east and Y’shtola was half dead

Then after the trial they just randomly after a quest or two go “oh I have stuff to do” and just diffuse back away again

If they want to continue to use the trust system they should be using either random NPC’s we summon with azem’s crystal. Nameless NPC’s for no reason or members of groups that are actually organically there (like members of oblivion for the 99 dungeon)

[DontReadThis]

It's true the plot has to constantly contrive itself around everyone showing up just before a trial, but it doesn't mean they need to remove the trust system entirely. They can use generic NPCs for the trials like they added for ARR dungeons and just use the Azem crystal as an excuse for the random party members to show up.

[AddictedToWitches]

Strongly disagree
I think doing the trials with trusts is cool, regardless of who is in the party

[Underscore]

I think it was fine for the trials in Dawntrail.

Now the dungeons in the Endwalker patches on the other hand? Yeah, I can see it. The Duty Support/Trust system is the only reason Urianger and Graha were present in 6.1, same goes for Thancred in 6.4.

[Isala]

I've said it before, but the Trust system was a mistake. Sure, the "I summon my friends" is cheesy. But dammit, it was better than "Let's drag all your Scion friends into the story for no reason other than the fact that we created this stupid system." Especially with the dogwater writing of Dawntrail, where each one of those Scions got maybe half a dozen lines each across the entire expansion. They barely put any effort into the couple of Scions in the beginning of story, but then they dragged the rest of them in for that one instance, and gave them no significance in the story anyway.

[Ramiee]

Isn't it duty support not trust?
Anyway if it is duty support then I think that it can exist but it should never interfere with the story. Having to fit characters who really shouldn't be present into the story to fill a role for a fight hurts the story for sure.
Just have generic guards or peacekeepers, maybe established local NPCs you don't need to insert people into the story just for it to make sense.
As for trust, that system is just for fun. I don't personally see the appeal (I'm not too interested in the reward being alternative costumes.) but it's about as interruptive to me as the golden saucer. Side content for people who enjoy it.

[SwadTheFrog]

Isn't it duty support not trust?
Anyway if it is duty support then I think that it can exist but it should never interfere with the story. Having to fit characters who really shouldn't be present into the story to fill a role for a fight hurts the story for sure.
Just have generic guards or peacekeepers, maybe established local NPCs you don't need to insert people into the story just for it to make sense.
As for trust, that system is just for fun. I don't personally see the appeal (I'm not too interested in the reward being alternative costumes.) but it's about as interruptive to me as the golden saucer. Side content for people who enjoy it.

Just use the random adventurers ARR gives you on Trust/Duty Support to fill in for characters that literally cannot be there, and bam. Solved.

[Zolvolt]

While I on the other hand would like to see every trial trust-enabled. Like endsinger and -redacted trial 3-

[dullneedles]

Having random characters popping up to fill spots in a trust party is like the least viable criticism in a story of this caliber tbh. This sounds like another poorly disguised "remove trusts because I don't like them" thread

[Ramiee]

Having random characters popping up to fill spots in a trust party is like the least viable criticism in a story of this caliber tbh. This sounds like another poorly disguised "remove trusts because I don't like them" thread

So you would of been fine with Ryne popping up in DT to fill in a DPS role? IDK I feel like that would be contrived and really dumb.