Remove Trust System from future Trials

[Ayalu]

I mean in theory we could also establish that we can fill up trust groups with the azem magic and we use the gauntlet class of light figures that Elidibus summoned. That would allow to do trust trials with all narrative characters needed even if they are not enough to normally fill it.

[Jojoya]

The use of the Azem crystal cutscenes at the start of a trial and grouping with people that way through Duty Finder is really cool, I would prefer that being the sole method moving forwards rather than having the Trust system option for any other trials. If anything, I actually think they could also add an Azem crystal cutscene (which can be skippable of course) to the start of dungeons when you team up with three other random players through the Duty Finder.

There is no need to force everyone else to play the way you want them to for your personal benefit that has no consideration for what they want.

If you want to use Duty Finder, then use Duty Finder. I did it that way myself for all the DT trials.

If others want to use Trust, let them use Trust.

[MeteorShan]

There is no need to force everyone else to play the way you want them to for your personal benefit that has no consideration for what they want.

If you want to use Duty Finder, then use Duty Finder. I did it that way myself for all the DT trials.

If others want to use Trust, let them use Trust.

Another one who has missed the point. It has nothing to do with how I want to play, if the narrative build up to a Trial with a Trust systems sucks, it sucks and those NPCs have no reason to be there. The issue is not the actual Trust system itself, as a system it works brilliantly although it is pushing the game more towards solo play which is a shame for an mmo.

Regarding your point though, from a narrative perspective if people did prefer to do a Trust system fight for a trial using the Duty Finder instead when going through the MSQ, then it would be nice if Squeenix added the Azem crystal cutscene to summon our 7 fellow peeps via DF. Would be a nice touch imo.

[Jojoya]

Another one who has missed the point. It has nothing to do with how I want to play, if the narrative build up to a Trial with a Trust systems sucks, it sucks and those NPCs have no reason to be there. The issue is not the actual Trust system itself, as a system it works brilliantly although it is pushing the game more towards solo play which is a shame for an mmo.

Regarding your point though, from a narrative perspective if people did prefer to do a Trust system fight for a trial using the Duty Finder instead when going through the MSQ, then it would be nice if Squeenix added the Azem crystal cutscene to summon our 7 fellow peeps via DF. Would be a nice touch imo.

According to your post title, you want Trust removed completely from trials. That's fairly straightforward. There's no need for anyone to read farther. Either they're going to agree that they should be removed or they won't.

If that is not your point, then you shouldn't have made that your title. Your title should have been something more along the lines of "Please make NPC use in Duty Support flow better with story". That would have engaged those curious in reading farther to better understand what your point is and why you feel that way.

So you're getting the response you deserve for using a click bait title. Don't want Trust in trials? Don't use it. It's optional.

[MeteorShan]

According to your post title, you want Trust removed completely from trials. That's fairly straightforward. There's no need for anyone to read farther. Either they're going to agree that they should be removed or they won't.

If that is not your point, then you shouldn't have made that your title. Your title should have been something more along the lines of "Please make NPC use in Duty Support flow better with story". That would have engaged those curious in reading farther to better understand what your point is and why you feel that way.

So you're getting the response you deserve for using a click bait title. Don't want Trust in trials? Don't use it. It's optional.

Completely fair point, it's the first thread I've posted in the forums and wasn't my intention for the title to be clickbaity, but I understand now how that's the case

[Boblawblah]

I love Trusts for trials, it's really the only time I'm able to see the mechanics properly and learn them at my own pace. As for story weirdness though, they need to simply stop trying to shoehorn in the characters like the Scions showing up in a cutscene. Just have them magically be there in the trust. We have the crystal, so players can just assume they summoned their allies with it.

[kcj]

Anytime I can avoid dealing with some of the idiots out there who insist on ruining my gaming experience (in group content), I will.

[MeteorShan]

Anytime I can avoid dealing with some of the idiots out there who insist on ruining my gaming experience (in group content), I will.

Fair enough I initially misread your point so I apologise for my initial response!

Like I said myself, I do use the Trust system on an initial playthrough whenever it's available. So I have no issue with the actual Trust system itself, I just haven't liked where and how it's been implemented in Dawntrail for its first two trials in detriment to the MSQ.

[Unioncityblue]

No. I love the trust system, for healers it helps you learn all of the fights in the story mode so you can do them properly with a group. Story wise sometimes it makes sense sometimes it doesn't but why would you remove something useful just because? Also there is something relaxing about not being expected to be peak the first time you see a fight.

[DreadCrow]

"Trusts totally break my immersion, since characters come out of no where!"

...you mean like the random adventurers we've spent the majority of the game doing trails with? 'cause the Warrior of Light, canonically, only soloed solo instances.