new option: vote wipe

[Valence]

If I can solo the fight, it's my right to do so. Why should people who failed the mechanics, potentially multiple times, get to forcefully reset the fight and waste my time?

For example, if a party wipes 3 times in a row, and I just decide to solo the fight on the third time, maybe it's for the better since they might never get through the fight otherwise. It also allows them to sit and watch someone do the mechanics flawlessly for ages which has the effect of teaching them the mechanics.

You're wasting the time of everyone, including yourself, by staying into a fight stubbornly, which would multiply by 4-5 the time required to finish it. I'm fine with cases where the tank is the only one left alive and they clutch solo kill the boss when it's about to die, but going from half HP to 0 is just the most annoying thing that can happen.

On top of it, it's funny to blame the people failing mechanics (nobody is perfect) when the tank can fail them 16 times, get 16 vuln stacks because nothing can kill them, and still be going like nothing happened. If as a tank you can solo a fight, and it's your right to do so, then please queue up solo then if you don't need the rest of the party.

Like you said, yes, the problem is the trinity is broken.

[Asako]

I don't mind as long as only surviving players can activate it, otherwise dead people can easily troll if they don't get their way.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Nerf tank self-sustain, especially on warrior. There's no valid reason they should be able to solo current content.

[Sove92]

There was only one fight where this feature would have made sense. In that instance, there was a legitimate point of no hope but no way to reset the fight. You had to go through the entire loss scenario before you could restart. That fight no longer exists in that form.

[Minali]

I'm very much in favour of a "wipe?" vote option. Also, going by what we've seen in Frosty's video from the media tour, we're going to be rid of the "walk of shame" soon, and teleport directly to a boss arena after a wipe, making it even more comfortable to restart.

Can it be fun to check out if you can manage to do it? Sure. Is this a valid reason to have 3 of 4 players wishing they could play Triple Triad in a dungeon because they're having an absurd amount of time of doing nothing ahead of them, because the boss is still at 50%? No, absolutely not. Is it better to solo it down from 5% to 0% instead of doing the whole fight all over again? Possibly, considering the boss is almost dead, but imo that's the only exception.

[Skivvy]

I don't think this is really needed and can see this being used to troll groups rather easily.

Typically if a fight is at the point where it's going to be a wipe, it really doesn't take that long for the remaining survivors to jump off a platform, or take a few hits and be done so everyone can reset. And honestly, I would hate getting popups mid-fight.

I know people are scared of the situations where a tank decides to solo a boss from 50%, and while I've been in groups that have done that (and it sucks), I've found that the majority of players are pretty respectful and will wipe a run in that situation.

[Asari5]

Nerf tank self-sustain, especially on warrior. There's no valid reason they should be able to solo current content.

actually, im against that. i would rather have them lower warriors defence and also raising the hp so warriors have to use their self sustain to help the healers getting himself full

[TaleraRistain]

I'm very much in favour of a "wipe?" vote option. Also, going by what we've seen in Frosty's video from the media tour, we're going to be rid of the "walk of shame" soon, and teleport directly to a boss arena after a wipe, making it even more comfortable to restart.

You mean SE after all these years has finally learned what "shortcut" means?

[1313]

this is why you should just vote kick all warriors

id simply reply with lmao but thats too short so

LMAOOOOOOOOOO

[Ath192]

If I can solo the fight, it's my right to do so. Why should people who failed the mechanics, potentially multiple times, get to forcefully reset the fight and waste my time?

For example, if a party wipes 3 times in a row, and I just decide to solo the fight on the third time, maybe it's for the better since they might never get through the fight otherwise. It also allows them to sit and watch someone do the mechanics flawlessly for ages which has the effect of teaching them the mechanics.

I completely agree with this take and hope something as heinous as forcing good players to be unable to continue a fight they have been doing well on never gets implemented. What a terrible approach to punish the surviving member(s) of the team for doing good on a fight in benefit of those that failed.

This would be disastrous and rewarding bad players at the expense of the good ones. Those who survive should have the decision to continue or wipe the party, not the failures.