new option: vote wipe

[Sove92]

There was only one fight where this feature would have made sense. In that instance, there was a legitimate point of no hope but no way to reset the fight. You had to go through the entire loss scenario before you could restart. That fight no longer exists in that form.

[Minali]

I'm very much in favour of a "wipe?" vote option. Also, going by what we've seen in Frosty's video from the media tour, we're going to be rid of the "walk of shame" soon, and teleport directly to a boss arena after a wipe, making it even more comfortable to restart.

Can it be fun to check out if you can manage to do it? Sure. Is this a valid reason to have 3 of 4 players wishing they could play Triple Triad in a dungeon because they're having an absurd amount of time of doing nothing ahead of them, because the boss is still at 50%? No, absolutely not. Is it better to solo it down from 5% to 0% instead of doing the whole fight all over again? Possibly, considering the boss is almost dead, but imo that's the only exception.

[TaleraRistain]

I'm very much in favour of a "wipe?" vote option. Also, going by what we've seen in Frosty's video from the media tour, we're going to be rid of the "walk of shame" soon, and teleport directly to a boss arena after a wipe, making it even more comfortable to restart.

You mean SE after all these years has finally learned what "shortcut" means?

[Minali]

You mean SE after all these years has finally learned what "shortcut" means?

Well, they did during the media tour. Of course all things shown there are subject to change, so they might revert this just because.

[TaleraRistain]

Well, they did during the media tour. Of course all things shown there are subject to change, so they might revert this just because.

After all this time I think I'd almost find it a little weird not being able to crack jokes about it in instances anymore.

[Skivvy]

I don't think this is really needed and can see this being used to troll groups rather easily.

Typically if a fight is at the point where it's going to be a wipe, it really doesn't take that long for the remaining survivors to jump off a platform, or take a few hits and be done so everyone can reset. And honestly, I would hate getting popups mid-fight.

I know people are scared of the situations where a tank decides to solo a boss from 50%, and while I've been in groups that have done that (and it sucks), I've found that the majority of players are pretty respectful and will wipe a run in that situation.

[NegativeS]

I don't think this is really needed and can see this being used to troll groups rather easily.

Might be convoluted, but we could say that the vote is only an option if everyone but the tank is dead (in a Light Party), if both healers and at least 3 DPS are dead (in a Full Party), or if at least half the DPS and all people with a Raise are dead (in an Alliance).

And honestly, I would hate getting popups mid-fight.

Well, obviously the people in the fight don't get to vote. If they cared whether or not there was a wipe, they could... y'know... wipe?

[Ath192]

Might be convoluted, but we could say that the vote is only an option if everyone but the tank is dead (in a Light Party), if both healers and at least 3 DPS are dead (in a Full Party), or if at least half the DPS and all people with a Raise are dead (in an Alliance).

So instead of asking the design team to make fights harder so a tank cannot survive for long without the rest of their party you'd rather ask for the option to force him to commit suicide from the ground? No way you slice its terrible. If you don't want the tank living, make fights a tank can't live without help.

[NegativeS]

So instead of asking the design team to make fights harder so a tank cannot survive for long without the rest of their party you'd rather ask for the option to force him to commit suicide from the ground? No way you slice its terrible. If you don't want the tank living, make fights a tank can't live without help.

Hey, I never said that actually balancing the game wasn't the preferable option.

But I would be lying if I said I had faith in SE to fix their design philosophy.

In lieu of designing their game properly, it would be nice if getting a sprout healer in a dungeon didn't condemn 3 out of 4 people to standing around for 10 minutes while the tank flexed his ability to push buttons in a timely manner.

[Ath192]

Hey, I never said that actually balancing the game wasn't the preferable option.

But I would be lying if I said I had faith in SE to fix their design philosophy.

In lieu of designing their game properly, it would be nice if getting a sprout healer in a dungeon didn't condemn 3 out of 4 people to standing around for 10 minutes while the tank flexed his ability to push buttons in a timely manner.

Ok, but just to be clear, even though "vote wipe" sounds all benign and virtuous even (power to the people!) what is being asked here is a euthenasia option.

Functionally it is not different than option in the menu that says:

"Kill player(s)?"

Are you sure you want to eliminate "Player X" so you can restart the fight? Yes/No.