#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[OgruMogru]

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If you yourself can see there are issues with the healer role, then surely you can understand that after 5 years of this direction and thousands of posts of feedback [as featured in the OP and all over the Healer subforum] not being listened to people are going let out a little despair? I mean they'll have to if they're stopping healer and they switch to BLM, but I think this has been an incredibly long time coming. No hyperbole!

[RhaesDaenys]

WHY HASN'T IT BEEN MENTIONED ANYWHERE!?!?!

It literally isn't. That person said they want more things similar to Red Mage, where you cast an ability and it causes other things to happen either by chance or guarantee, IE - Traits (Like Red Mage Dual Cast).

All I get form that post you quoted is that DPS is simple, it doesn't offer solutions or explain EXACTLY what they want from it other than it should feel 'dynamic and rewarding' while simultaneously complaining about everything else.

[KellyEwer]

Tbf you equally could have been spending your time on real world issues instead of begging people to touch grass on video game related forums.

I do, actually. Being LGBTQ+ is great that way, you're forced into politics whether you like it or not. But one of my friends linked this like "hey what do you think about it" and I was sufficiently amused I felt like commenting.

[Milkbeard]

If people believe that healers are unnecessary in ultimate content because of goofy records showing a couple of warriors doing UCOB, they obviously haven't experienced ultimate content. Healers are essential. It can be amusing when, on occasion, eight exceptionally skilled players pull off some trickrun-level antics for evergreen content that's been around for years. However, if you take those runs as the rule or the meta, you're mistaken.

For expert roulettes and some trials, it's true that healers might not be strictly necessary. But in those cases, neither are tanks or DPS. It might seem like DPS are crucial, but the checks can often be completed with just two players. We've all been in roulettes where this has happened at least once, and a DPS can tank nearly any buster if properly mitigated in that content as well. Classes are designed to cover for each other because the game itself is easy unless you're tackling hard content.

Once you engage in hard content, you'll realize that no mechanic can be survived with just DPS group mitigation. Every mechanic has a mitigation threshold, and none are balanced for just Addle and Feint being sufficient. Reprisals and healer mitigation are also always necessary. If you have a problem with tanks mitigating mechanics for your group, that is just unreasonable. Removing tank group mitigation would merely make them weaker DPS. Strive for more, not less. Removals should not be an option. You wanted more from the expansion spell previews, not for them to remove things. Be creative, not deconstructive.

[IDontPetLalas]

I have seen enough healers not dpsing because it's too hard to keep people alive that I know I don't want more damage in casual content or dps buttons to have the illusion of doing something different (aka doing damage).
What's lack in the content is actual interactions with the fight. Activating something, sleeping an add, doing something else than dpsing or healing.

I swear you don't want to take more damage in anything lower than savage with random healer barely able to click on more than cure1, and you don't want to confuse most people with more damage buttons.

The homogenization of jobs is the same for everyone and not a healer problem. Tanks are all the same, dps are all the same. Atleast that's how I feel from playing since beta and never stop playing, lvling every jobs and playing all of them at extreme lvl minimum. It's all an illusion of choice since stormblood for every roles.

Indeed, we wouldn't want to confuse the poor healers, now would we? Certainly not at level 100?
Puh-leeeze.

[Hellebore_Ghrian]

Ultimately healers don't have a very engaging rotation because they're supposed to heal. They made the choice to balance the game around harder content, making it so that casual content, healing isn't required nearly as often.

Sure, so I assume from your definition that P12S should be casual content too, since it has been done with no healer required like a lot of other "casual" contents like all EX, ultimate TOP, raids normal soloed by tank on patch, and other several savage fights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etKYa3K70ek

No issue then. Wanting to being usefull to have a spot in a party should be a god complex.

[ThaCa]

You should add what these same charts look like in the hardest content in WoW (Good comparison since it's basically the same website, and similar gameplay)

This looks a lot healthier than what we have now. Several casts per minute of different skills and none taking majority of the time.

[RhaesDaenys]

What do you think those class gauges and traits should be doing? Picking our noses? Those interactions should include healing resources that I have to spend wisely and extra DPS spells. Those healing resources would be useless if we also didn't have more incoming damage.

You don't have to be rude about it, I'm genuinely trying to understand exactly what the problem is. We've gone around this discussion seeing "DPS is lackluster" and "We want to heal more" and being met with "NO NOT LIKE THAT."

This whole thread can be summed up with one sentence explaining the problem is as follows :

"Players in the healing role would appreciate if the healing DPS rotation could be more dynamic much like many other DPS jobs, either by new mechanics or traits added to make it feel more fun."

Instead I'm trying to give you guys potential solutions that fixes the original arguments I read of "We want to heal more and dps less" and being told, "That just replaces Glare Glare Glare with Cure Cure Cure. No."

If you're trying to drive home a point and ask for fixes, be VERY SPECIFIC with what you're asking for.

[Jeycht]

Indeed, we wouldn't want to confuse the poor healers, now would we? Certainly not at level 100?
Puh-leeeze.

Have you done dungeons with random healer or are you always doing them as healer? Same with any content lvl90, trial or normal raid. Are you playing with a healer friend? You won't make me believe you never saw (or rarely) a healer not dpsing AT ALL when being MAX lvl and not first timer. Or you are not playing the same game as me. Or only spaming medica/cure or equivalent

[Parona]

Sure, so I assume from your definition that P12S should be casual content too, since it has been done with no healer like a lot of other "casual" content all EX, TOP, almost all raid nm and other several savages :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etKYa3K70ek

Yeah because 4 tanks is such a normal combination and I'm sure it works for every fight... Do you have the same for phase 2 or any other fight of the current content? Only because you found one outlier doesn't mean it's the rule.