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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeycht View Post
    I have seen enough healers not dpsing because it's too hard to keep people alive that I know I don't want more damage in casual content or dps buttons to have the illusion of doing something different (aka doing damage).
    What's lack in the content is actual interactions with the fight. Activating something, sleeping an add, doing something else than dpsing or healing.

    I swear you don't want to take more damage in anything lower than savage with random healer barely able to click on more than cure1, and you don't want to confuse most people with more damage buttons.

    The homogenization of jobs is the same for everyone and not a healer problem. Tanks are all the same, dps are all the same. Atleast that's how I feel from playing since beta and never stop playing, lvling every jobs and playing all of them at extreme lvl minimum. It's all an illusion of choice since stormblood for every roles.
    Indeed, we wouldn't want to confuse the poor healers, now would we? Certainly not at level 100?
    Puh-leeeze.
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    Last edited by IDontPetLalas; 06-17-2024 at 08:57 AM. Reason: took a few edits, was wheezing with laughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Indeed, we wouldn't want to confuse the poor healers, now would we? Certainly not at level 100?
    Puh-leeeze.
    Have you done dungeons with random healer or are you always doing them as healer? Same with any content lvl90, trial or normal raid. Are you playing with a healer friend? You won't make me believe you never saw (or rarely) a healer not dpsing AT ALL when being MAX lvl and not first timer. Or you are not playing the same game as me. Or only spaming medica/cure or equivalent
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeycht View Post
    Have you done dungeons with random healer or are you always doing them as healer? Same with any content lvl90, trial or normal raid. Are you playing with a healer friend? You won't make me believe you never saw (or rarely) a healer not dpsing AT ALL when being MAX lvl and not first timer. Or you are not playing the same game as me. Or only spaming medica/cure or equivalent
    We can play this with ANY job. Have you never:

    Seen a tank not using their mitigation? Using ALL of their mitigation at once? Not grabbing a mob off someone? Just auto-attacking?

    How about DPS? Not using their AOE (when they had the skill available)? Using an AOE when they should have used single target (boss)? Dropping their dots? (less of an issue now). Not using and debuffs to boost DPS or help out with mitigation or self-heals?

    And in case you think that I think healers are blameless- the answer is "no"- I've seen 0 damage healers, - healers that didn't heal were rarer by the way, healers that didn't understand LD, and likely more issues.

    The point being that adding additional skills to any job may cause confusion- i.e. cognitive dissonance/overload , I would expect that someone attracted to healing would want to be put in the position of making decisions. We can discuss on how it is split between healing and DPS, however my own experience with skilled healers (and no I do not mean me /s) is that they are not easily "confused".
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    We can play this with ANY job. Have you never:

    Seen a tank not using their mitigation? Using ALL of their mitigation at once? Not grabbing a mob off someone? Just auto-attacking?

    How about DPS? Not using their AOE (when they had the skill available)? Using an AOE when they should have used single target (boss)? Dropping their dots? (less of an issue now). Not using and debuffs to boost DPS or help out with mitigation or self-heals?

    And in case you think that I think healers are blameless- the answer is "no"- I've seen 0 damage healers, - healers that didn't heal were rarer by the way, healers that didn't understand LD, and likely more issues.

    The point being that adding additional skills to any job may cause confusion- i.e. cognitive dissonance/overload , I would expect that someone attracted to healing would want to be put in the position of making decisions. We can discussion on how it is split between healing and DPS, however my own experience with skilled healers (and no I do not mean me /s) is that they are not easily "confused".
    It's indeed what I said. But since it's an healer topic and the quote was about healer I talked about it. Yet it's the same problem for every jobs and that's why they homogenize all of them and make all of them easier. You even quote my post. What are you doing?
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    Clean everything before any nerf is my goal. No matter the time needed to reach the last hp and beat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Indeed, we wouldn't want to confuse the poor healers, now would we? Certainly not at level 100?
    Puh-leeeze.
    Do you know how many scholars I see spamming physick at level 90?
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