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  1. #1051
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bun_Vivant View Post
    And what makes you think that? I started on CNJ back in ARR and swapped to SGE-main in EW, but my spouse was BRD and picked up healing in response to slow queue pops, and now quite enjoys WMH. People adapt.


    Good luck balancing that -- and if you don't, be ready for there to be only one class (or maybe two) of healer that's welcome in high-end play.

    As the 600-year-old saying goes, you can't please all of the people all the time.
    And in online gaming, you actually can't please all of the people ever.
    That isn't someone taking up healing in response to the strike. That's an active healer who isn't participating in the strike. As far as when they actually took up healing, I mean there wasn't a strike then. Most players will respond to any wait times by simply waiting it out or joining the strike. It's silly to assume someone's going go level a whole job in the middle of a new expansion.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 06-12-2024 at 07:27 AM.

  2. #1052
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    TheDruidOcelot's Avatar
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    N'qehbe Moshroca
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by ClayyLmao View Post
    snip
    that's nice sweetie, have you made sure to drink some water?

    how do you feel about volunteer work? i hear humane societies always need people willing to clean kennels. ^-^

    (also i'm just southern, this is just how i talk in real life, i'm sorry that me being nice is so scary and hard for you. i genuinely want you to have a better day, and dehydration is awful)
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    Last edited by TheDruidOcelot; 06-12-2024 at 07:38 AM. Reason: post limit reached

  3. #1053
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    Telkira's Avatar
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    Aknora Telkira
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    Balmung
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    this thread is literal parody turned reality.
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  4. #1054
    Player Sesera's Avatar
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    Komi Shouko
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Local_Custard View Post
    Casual healer here: I am not happy about the state of healers. Please do not speak for us.
    Other people have talked about the problem better than I could so I will say this instead: Would you be okay if dancer's dance steps only had 1 step and you were only given 1 button to attack? No? Then why are healers allowed to be in this condition? Is it because it is convenient for you to not care? Easier for you to simply push people down because you would rather not think about what it is like playing this role?
    Do you think healers are in an acceptable state? Are you okay with healers only having 1 button to press because no one is taking enough damage and tanks effectively can heal themself?
    You know just as well as I do the game would fall apart if all healers stopped playing. Most players already have given up on healer because it is the worst role in the game. Maybe you don't notice because it has been bad for a while so you are used to it. Change is scary, I know. But sometimes change is needed for things to get better.
    I'm going to say it again in capslock so maybe you can read it better.

    NOBODY WANTS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR AND WHEN I SAY NODODY I MEAN THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE PLAYING THE GAME OTHERWISE SE WOULD HAVE KEPT HW HEALER OR REVERT THE CHANGE YEARS AGO.

    Got it? Or do I need to listen to another "I'm different so you are wrong"?
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  5. #1055
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    OliviaLugria's Avatar
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    Olivia Lugria
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bun_Vivant View Post


    Good luck balancing that -- and if you don't, be ready for there to be only one class (or maybe two) of healer that's welcome in high-end play.
    There's never been a time that a job has been nonviable in ffxiv. I'm sure they could do a fine job of it.
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    I just want some competent job design along with a mild difficulty curve. Asking for more seems to much right now.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE Discord: https://discord.gg/BKF6YSUDXc
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  6. #1056
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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    Please stop using the nebulous "they" when you're talking about yourself. You're great at concern trolling though I'll give you that. Sure love to hide behind third person pronouns for your own spiteful opinions.
    Hi Titanmen.


    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaLugria View Post
    Some people have already said things, so I'll keep it brief. Most recent log show are sage with 13 gcds in P12S phase 2. (This is also a very um-optimized amount) Their dosis cast were 135 along with 16 Eu Dosis, 13 phlegmas, 13 toxicons and 3 pneuma. So... the amount of dps gcds exceeded healing gcds by more than 10x
    Except as Sage some of those damage GCDs might as well represent healing GCDs because of Kardion. Dealing damage is also healing whomever has Kardion.

    Quote Originally Posted by WeakestZenosEnjoyer View Post
    Job leveling stats is maybe the worst thing you could possibly reference.

    Not only is one of those shared with one of the most popular DPS jobs. I have multiple jobs at or near max level that I don't actually play any more. I only started playing the video game late into Endwalker.

    I have a level 90 Reaper that was just for the Endwalker MSQ, I have not played it since but I still posses a level 90 Reaper. I also have a level 90 DRK that's used exclusively in Hunt Trains because the state of tanks rn frustrates me and an 80~ WHM I couldn't even finish leveling but realistically I could run through Frontlines/Tribes/Khloe and get done.
    I'm not trying to say that every one of those players would absolutely switch to healer if needed.

    But that's a very large pool of potential healers to fill in if other healers decide it's time to stop healing.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 06-12-2024 at 07:36 AM.

  7. #1057
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    TheDruidOcelot's Avatar
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    N'qehbe Moshroca
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 78
    I'm going to say it again in capslock so maybe you can read it better.

    NOBODY WANTS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR AND WHEN I SAY NODODY I MEAN THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE PLAYING THE GAME OTHERWISE SE WOULD HAVE KEPT HW HEALER OR REVERT THE CHANGE YEARS AGO.

    Got it? Or do I need to listen to another "I'm different so you are wrong"?
    oh sweetie you sound really upset. maybe you need to take a little walk and have a glass of water? if being in this thread really upsets you this much you don't need to be in here.

    i really suggest that you go do something else for a little while. you're clearly incredibly upset over the idea that other people aren't having fun, and want to have fun.

    and sweetheart, that's not good for your bloodpressure.

    you dont need to be so angry.
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    Last edited by TheDruidOcelot; 06-12-2024 at 07:39 AM. Reason: accidentally hit post early

  8. #1058
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    Local_Custard's Avatar
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    Rhel'a Tayuun
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    Sargatanas
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    Culinarian Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    I'm going to say it again in capslock so maybe you can read it better.

    NOBODY WANTS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR AND WHEN I SAY NODODY I MEAN THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE PLAYING THE GAME OTHERWISE SE WOULD HAVE KEPT HW HEALER OR REVERT THE CHANGE YEARS AGO.

    Got it? Or do I need to listen to another "I'm different so you are wrong"?
    who is this majority? Dps players? I would rather not have healers appeal to dps mains (if a dps main looks at a healer job and wants to play it though, then more power to them). I want healers to appeal to healers.
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    I love the men in this game

    I finally return to the game! Current goal: getting all my jobs to 90

  9. #1059
    Player Bun_Vivant's Avatar
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    Bun Vivant
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    Halicarnassus
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    Sage Lv 95
    Responding to someone enjoying the laid-back healer life when q'd with a WAR tank:
    Quote Originally Posted by Rozeee View Post
    It is so extremely odd to see people being proud over not playing the game.
    Hey, when I queue for DF as SGE and get a tank and two DPS that are really damn good and we ROMP over the same dungeon that I've had so many noobs and goobs screw up in the past, I enjoy the heck out it! Sure, I'm doing more Dyskrasias than GCD heals, but who care as as long as it's fun?

    HOWEVER, then there's those times when the tank DCs, and the group decides to go on without them until they reconnect.
    That's slower, and not a romp at all. I often have to just plain heal while the DPS do their thing. But I enjoy that too!

    Long ago I was healing in static. It started out fun, but then it began to feel like a job. I was showing up out of obligation, not anticipation.
    So I quit doing that. "Yo ho yo ho, the casual's life for me!"

    And I must enjoy it: why else would I have six characters on two accounts and three worlds waiting for DT at EoC, all of them with at least SGE/WAR/DNC and geared to iL640 or better? I'll be doing DT at least six times, predominately doing the dungeons on SGE except when my spouse (who has five geared EoC characters with at least iL640 WHM/WAR/DNC) wants to WHM them.

    Y'all enjoy your strike. We'll happily pick up the slack (and the comms, and the in-need bonuses) while you're gone.
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    Last edited by Bun_Vivant; 06-12-2024 at 07:41 AM.

  10. #1060
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    Ibara Hazuki
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by OgruMogru View Post
    These Usain Bolt analogies are doing a lot of....legwork
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