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    Player
    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    It's always important to balance this by having healers do it better.
    If SMN couldn't swiftcast Res and RDM couldn't swiftcast and dualcast raise or they both had like a minute or 2 minute CD it would be balanced because healers would objectively be better at Ressing and therefore have that in mind for comps. Exactly the same for healing, if DPS and Tanks group healing forced them to lose damage and it being slow then the same priority would happen.

    When it comes to managing the partys hp the healer should be the only one where there's zero sacrifices for doing it and they should always be the best at it.
    If phoenix downs were introduced for all jobs then every job that uses it would have to cast it and have it waste a few gcds.
    This doesn't apply to personal mitigation and tanks mitigating groups in the form of buffs, only in healer focused utility.
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Some of us already thriving on non-healers. Doesn't stop us from sending in feedback how garbage the role though, since that's what they told us to do even in-game on support ticket window lol.
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Some of us already thriving on non-healers. Doesn't stop us from sending in feedback how garbage the role though, since that's what they told us to do even in-game on support ticket window lol.
    And as non-healer mains now, we actually have more say in how healers should be designed. Because SE loves listening to people who don't play the jobs.
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    I would like game functionality to stop being limited by what people theoretically will or won't do.
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    it/its - 14 accessibility is bad, ease of access is not accessibility, jobs are boring. Transphobia ruins real attempts at criticism and it's whack.

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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by gllt View Post
    I would like game functionality to stop being limited by what people theoretically will or won't do.
    This.

    Stop balancing for the absolute bottom of player capability, stop removing buttons that people are too lazy to press, stop removing things that people are too lazy to engage in.
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    Rowan Aarontagdh
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Im sorry for all the disabled players i see posting around, but no video game can survive catering to a small minority when it is at the expense of a majority.
    You should expect that you will not be able to enjoy most of the game's content. That's just how it is and no one can fix it.

    Im glad that you can and have enjoyed the game to the extent that you can. Later content will naturally be harder, and not exactly more of the same striking dummy difficulty.
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    Ozmandis Ol
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    Omega
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildheaven182 View Post
    Im sorry for all the disabled players i see posting around, but no video game can survive catering to a small minority when it is at the expense of a majority.
    You should expect that you will not be able to enjoy most of the game's content. That's just how it is and no one can fix it.

    Im glad that you can and have enjoyed the game to the extent that you can. Later content will naturally be harder, and not exactly more of the same striking dummy difficulty.
    I totally disagree with you, devs should just put accessibility options for them. While I understand it's not possible to do it for higher end content, I don't see what harm it would cause for 99% of the game if it existed. I don't see how someone whould mind at all in normal content if you could use some options to make the game more accessible with a simplified rotation mode for example.
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    Cheez Whiz
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ozmandis View Post
    I totally disagree with you, devs should just put accessibility options for them. While I understand it's not possible to do it for higher end content, I don't see what harm it would cause for 99% of the game if it existed. I don't see how someone whould mind at all in normal content if you could use some options to make the game more accessible with a simplified rotation mode for example.
    The danger with a system like this is that a lot of players would end up walling themselves into casual content by crutching the simple rotation mode and being unable to leave their comfort zone. It would create a much larger gap to bridge between casual content and high end content.

    I think a better solution would be to add a dungeon "story mode", playable with duty support, where you essentially have hallowed ground up for the entire duration of the dungeon but receive 0 EXP, loot or tomes. If people are only here for the story and don't want to engage with battle content in any meaningful way, they could do that, and just do a few sidequests here and there to make up for lost EXP.
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    Last edited by BigCheez; 07-15-2024 at 10:29 PM.

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    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ozmandis View Post
    I totally disagree with you, devs should just put accessibility options for them. While I understand it's not possible to do it for higher end content, I don't see what harm it would cause for 99% of the game if it existed. I don't see how someone whould mind at all in normal content if you could use some options to make the game more accessible with a simplified rotation mode for example.
    With all respect possible to disabled players, there are tons of single players options that cater to their specific needs. Let's not destroy a multiplayer game with those kinds of things. I do NOT want someone who can't perform the basics of their role to be carried through terrible systems, and end up in dungeons with other players.
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    Ozmandis Ol
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    Omega
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    With all respect possible to disabled players, there are tons of single players options that cater to their specific needs. Let's not destroy a multiplayer game with those kinds of things. I do NOT want someone who can't perform the basics of their role to be carried through terrible systems, and end up in dungeons with other players.
    If you are not disabled I don't think you should decide in their place.
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