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  1. #211
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    rawker's Avatar
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I wouldn't mind if they made SCH hard to master if it means that it is rewarding. And for that reason alone, give SCHs CS in the form of the Addenda from 11.
    (6)

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE


    - Seraphism is BAD.
    - Give us back Shadowflare and make Deployment/Emergency Tactics affect Biolysis
    - Give us back Rouse
    - Make pet management rewarding.

  2. #212
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    Yeah, and they obviously won't care because they're just there for the dungeon. Doing this will make their brain just turn off and go watch Netflix or something, since they'll think "This is easy." and go on with their day. Of course, FFXIV caters far too heavily to its casual player base and the toxic opinions of some high-end streamers. If the 1 Tank 3 DPS Dungeon Clear from Xeno didn't send a message at the Media Tour? They're never going to fix it.
    Sure, the lazy healers won't care one bit. But for some people who want to actually play a healer, they'll very likely start questioning why they're not required to heal, then they'll start digging for information and eventually they'll understand the issues.

    That's the goal here. To gain the support of new healers who want to be healing, not to correct the attitude of lazy healers who just want to watch netflix and spam Cure.
    (14)

  3. #213
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    currentlemon's Avatar
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    Celica Genhu
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sensui View Post
    Over the last 10 years playing this I've never been in a high end raid situation where healers aren't needed. But. Maybe you guys are playing a different game than I am.
    Most of us are referring to Healers in normal content like dungeons, normal trails, 24-man raids, and solo content. The role just isn’t all that good in those scenarios and hasn’t been since Stormblood.

    High level content may require healers yet, but there are some scenarios where Extreme, Savage, and Ultimate fights require only one healer or no healers at all.

    Zodiark Extreme was cleared with no healers when it was current content. TOP is also another example.
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  4. #214
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica_VS View Post
    This is one of the funniest things I have seen on the forums.
    Is it as funny as the media tour where brand new content is still being cleared effortlessly without healers?
    (25)

  5. #215
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    Sensui's Avatar
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    Angra Mainyu
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    High-end Raids are a different situation: What they're referring to is the 99% of content - Dungeons. If 99% of content is clearable without healers, then Healers shouldn't exist is the message we're getting. This 1 Tank 3 DPS thing started with Endwalker, and considering Healers have been bad since Shadowbringers? Protesting is the only way, whether by wallet or in-game. Of course, what dev reads the English Forums nowadays? It's not like they only can read JP Forums where they can understand their own language...
    People do gimmicky shit all the time. Look at all the "only tank" runs.

    I understand how you feel. I do wish they made stuff more random and had more random damage output and/or whatever.

    That being said, I also duo most of my casual content with my wife, being able to do that without having to bring a 3rd person that we inevitably can't find and would gate is on doing ANYTHING in the game would be a turn off. (We duo criterion and maps and other basic stuff to kill time)

    So I'd that content started requiring healers that would kinda suck for me, personally..
    (2)

  6. #216
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    Gullis's Avatar
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    Gullis Hil
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sensui View Post
    Over the last 10 years playing this I've never been in a high end raid situation where healers aren't needed. But. Maybe you guys are playing a different game than I am.
    A job should be fun to play regardless of difficulty.
    (33)

  7. #217
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sensui View Post
    People do gimmicky shit all the time. Look at all the "only tank" runs.

    I understand how you feel. I do wish they made stuff more random and had more random damage output and/or whatever.

    That being said, I also duo most of my casual content with my wife, being able to do that without having to bring a 3rd person that we inevitably can't find and would gate is on doing ANYTHING in the game would be a turn off. (We duo criterion and maps and other basic stuff to kill time)

    So I'd that content started requiring healers that would kinda suck for me, personally..
    Basing an MMO around players who play it like an offline co op game does not seem condusive to success.
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  8. #218
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    HyperiusUltima's Avatar
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    Eileen White
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    Brynhildr
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sensui View Post
    People do gimmicky shit all the time. Look at all the "only tank" runs.

    I understand how you feel. I do wish they made stuff more random and had more random damage output and/or whatever.

    That being said, I also duo most of my casual content with my wife, being able to do that without having to bring a 3rd person that we inevitably can't find and would gate is on doing ANYTHING in the game would be a turn off. (We duo criterion and maps and other basic stuff to kill time)

    So I'd that content started requiring healers that would kinda suck for me, personally..
    It's understandable if you want to do stuff with your wife - but this topic is about the Healer Role essentially being invalidated in almost every piece of content out there. The Trinity System that XIV uses doesn't work if one role can do everything and the other role can essentially keep up with themselves with new healing tools while Healers get the same old healing bloat for the Nth time in a row.

    If the Devs don't want to touch the Healing Role and reconsider, then Healers are DOA. You'll get people curious about them over time, but only to be met with disappointment the moment you realize that you can't use anything other than turn into a Glare Mage.
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  9. #219
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    Sensui's Avatar
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    Angra Mainyu
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Basing an MMO around players who play it like an offline co op game does not seem condusive to success.
    Finding quality friends is hard.
    (0)

  10. #220
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Empathy and being receptive to other player's opinions is also hard.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE


    - Seraphism is BAD.
    - Give us back Shadowflare and make Deployment/Emergency Tactics affect Biolysis
    - Give us back Rouse
    - Make pet management rewarding.

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