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    AmiableApkallu's Avatar
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The average player tends to take a lot of avoidable damage.
    They don't, actually. I can think of maybe three times in two years of Duty Finder runs where I've actually wondered whether the party could maybe try to stop standing in the bad.

    Improving the DPS toolkit sounds like a good idea but then we run into what makes an appealing damage kit. Usually it involves retaining proper uptime on a rotation to maximize DPS.
    Please take a moment to read through some actual, serious proposals. Here's one example, and another example.

    The whole 1-2-3 combo thing is a strawman. Healer discourse long ago agreed that an unthinking 1-2-3 combo is little different from 1-1-1, and that it'd feel bad to break an otherwise unbreakable combo to push a necessary heal.
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    Jokerz_93's Avatar
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    Tora Noyama
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zadood View Post
    How often can you get those bad-ass healer moment in most of current high end boss fight?
    IMHO, that should be the base.
    As I see healers, they are the Jack of all trades in your deck.
    In fact, their LB 3 is the Jack of all trades, unlucky, tho -as usual- SE can achieve only half of the good stuff they can think.

    But it’s not on me to judge their work.

    Anyways, I’m a main Tank (DRK not worry I’ll still needs some heals…I think) and I like playing healers most of my the time when I q in public alone.
    Although I started playing at ShB so I don’t know any of the stuff Healers were used to before it, I can understand what kind of feelings you guys feel.
    I have the same running 24-men raids.

    I support your strike, but if you ask me I’d made it last until SE released an official apology, I’m a bit drastic on these kind of stuffs because I think drastic times require drastic measures to achieve drastic changes.

    Hope that at least for one time something can reach SE’s deaf ears.

    Peace!
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    Kazzy Delazzy
    World
    Alpha
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I've never really posted on the forums before because I do think a lot of people like to complain for the sake of complaining. However, I completely agree that the state of healers right now is dreadful. The healing role feels like it is actively punishing players who are good at the game. Like, I'm not saying everything needs to be significantly more difficult, but if you're gonna put an emphasis on us doing DPS then at least give us tools to DPS. I shouldn't have to pray that I'm in a party with players who collectively have a single brain cell so I can actually feel like I'm being needed/useful in playing my favourite jobs in the game.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Y'know it would've been funny if healers collectively just do the MSQ dungeons together in a party of 4/8-mans, all healers lmao, just because they refuse to be a part of unsolicited community service that is making sure the DF queue pops.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 06-09-2024 at 09:00 PM.

    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Y'know it would've been funny if healers collectively just do the MSQ dungeons together in a party of 4/8-mans, all healers lmao, just because they refuse to be a part of unsolicited community service that is making sure the DF queue pops.
    Now that would be enjoyable
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    Celica Genhu
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    Oh yeah, that's a very good point that doesn't get mentioned enough. Solo questing, solo fights or doing fates on healer is terrible. So if you are a healer main through and through and would like to tackle all kinds of content you'll have a worse time than dps or tank (though tbh tank really dominates when it comes to solo content).
    Doing solo content on healer is so boring. If you want to drive our point across, play healer on MSQ, FATEs, and other solo content. Absolutely dreadful.
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    PercibelTheren's Avatar
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    Percibel Theren
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Joining in on this. I have healed in every single MMO I have ever played. The only healer I truly enjoy in FFXIV is AST and that job is getting everything I enjoyed taken out of it. I'm switching to Dancer.
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    Oneiron Fuchs
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 90
    Fully support! It's time there are some dedicated healers in the job design team. Scholar was my altime favorite and my main since ARR, but it got so butchered and lost all of its identity in Shadowbringers. They had Endwalker to fix things, and now Dawntrail which was a kick in the guts with the new DPS skill locked behind a 2min CD and that comical Angel Halloween costume skill called Seraphism. Seriously this was the final straw. Going in as a healer main through the story will feel like nothing has changed. We didn't even get a visual upgrade to the skill we will be using 90% of the time. Getting to lvl 100 and using a 2 year old skill animation with a 4 year old dot is peek gameplay, thanks devs!
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    Alexia Kusanagi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    I just saw the Reddit post and they’re right like this is such a small percentile like it won’t achieve much lol. I welcome the effort but you were better off being silent and showing the statistics of healers are needed.
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    Katish's Avatar
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    Cat Toy
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Signed and dated, I will also recruit others in game for the strike...where is the reddit I will also add that as reference?
    Love the post is attracting naysayers as always, but I will make sure that it at least has a fighting chance. xD

    You would be surprised how many people actually carry the sentiment but there just isn't something that they can just simply get behind because it doesn't carry enough gravity.
    Might as well do a stream on it as well, we will see.
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    Last edited by Katish; 06-09-2024 at 11:49 PM.

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