7.0 DPS Wishlist

[Fyxation]

I want bard aoe rotations to "feel" better. There's too much dependency on rng, and I'd prefer if it were closer to 2.0's wide volley>rain of death>quick knock (which still had rng proc problems). Where so many other jobs are straight forward and fart out damage like they just had taco bell, bard has to weave and if/then their way to having decent dps--and even when done well, the pay off is mediocre.

I'm hoping that most actions just get upgraded as has been the pattern since Stormblood, but if bard gets left another sloppy rotation, I might wind up playing more of other jobs than what I considered my "main" for years. I think I played more sage than anything during EW. :/

[ZiraZ]

> "please explain how my suggestions are bad"
> "your suggestions are awful"

Gee, thanks, very helpful.
Again, I don't see how mapping the EXACT SAME abilities on fewer buttons would suddenly make the job worse. The only semblance of a suggestions I got earlier was "because people mash too hard"



Easy on the hyperbole, there.



I'm not bloody asking for DRG to become as RNG-reliant as DNC, or even reliant on RNG at all, so stop putting words in my mouth. You're taking a very specific part of my post completely out of context.
To reiterate: Life Surge is a skill that makes no bloody sense in DRG's current design, because the job has no specific interaction with crit. My point was that they should either introduce crit interactions (a proc on crit being a possible example) or change the skill into something more worthy of taking up a keybind.

I genuinely do not understand how people can be so married to abilities that only slightly increase a meaningless number but do nothing for your job's actual gameplay. Same with the boring 10% damage buffs several jobs have.

Have you ever played DRG in any kind of high-end duty?
You clearly have ZERO clue what you are talking about, life surge has slight intricacies due to it's 40sec cooldown and the way the GCD loops, I mean you don't even have a clue why mirage dive is separate from HJ and as people already pointed out your idea is so bad even the devs backtracked on it in record time, so I doubt you've ever done a proper 6min+ life surge loop. Not to mention the consequences and interactions of skillspeed on life surge and kill/phase speed in crit/ultimates, incredibly reductive calling it an ability that increases a meaningless number and does nothing for the jobs actual gameplay.
Anyways DRG has no bloat and every oGCD has its place in the rotation.

[Reldhir]

Have you ever played DRG in any kind of high-end duty?
You clearly have ZERO clue what you are talking about, life surge has slight intricacies due to it's 40sec cooldown and the way the GCD loops, I mean you don't even have a clue why mirage dive is separate from HJ and as people already pointed out your idea is so bad even the devs backtracked on it in record time, so I doubt you've ever done a proper 6min+ life surge loop. Not to mention the consequences and interactions of skillspeed on life surge and kill/phase speed in crit/ultimates, incredibly reductive calling it an ability that increases a meaningless number and does nothing for the jobs actual gameplay.
Anyways DRG has no bloat and every oGCD has its place in the rotation.

I mean.... that's a bit much. The thread is just a for funsies say what you want for the job thread. There's really no need to make things personal lol. The chap also shouldn't need to justify why they want what they want with how "skilled" they are at the game. Lotsa people play this game and lotsa people want what they want for different reasons. You've posted several times that you believe DRG is not bloated and many people still believe otherwise, and thats okay! Just agree to disagree, there's no need to call people out or question their abilities or try to impose your implied superiority, that's not the objective here xD chill brother, we're all fans here.

Also, taking your arguments into consideration I still personally believe skills like lance charge and life surge are lowest on the totem pole of cool skills and thats why I still believe and hence why I put it on my wishlist for them to get axed first. Im not ignoring their merits or how they fall in the current DRG kit, just that I'm of the opinion that theyd be the least consquential to what I believe makes DRG, DRG. If they were removed for something...I don't know exactly what! But IF something were to be removed to make way for more DRG coolness. I would be least sad for those two xD

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For the record there are other skills that I wouldnt mind making the cut either! Battle litany? Has always been a ehh skill to me doesnt give me the DRG flavour but it's a raid buff and my brain is too smol to figure out a cool alternative to that. Best I could manage is to reflavour the animation and name but as a piece of kit in the DRG rotation ive no idea which is why it didnt make the chopping block on my list.

Also, also, life surge really isnt that complicated a skill, you just throw it on heavens thrust whenever its available, or you throw it on the #5 GCD (fang or wheeling) when under buffs in the 2min. Its really brainded so im not seeing the intricacies? But maybe im just not that good at drg lol please enlighten me (hopefully in a non judgy overly agressive way)

[Arohk]

There is only one thing i wish to see across the board, and that is reduction of the button bloat on all jobs, consolidation of combo abilities.

[Supersnow845]

Combo consolidation is about 7th on the list of ways to reduce action bloat

They need to get rid of the pointless bloat of oGCD’s you press once per minute or 2 that have no interaction with the kit they are just a flashy bloat button in the burst window

[Sylvain]

Combo consolidation is about 7th on the list of ways to reduce action bloat

They need to get rid of the pointless bloat of oGCD’s you press once per minute or 2 that have no interaction with the kit they are yoshi a flashy bloat button in the burst window

**Shadowbringer** cough cough

[ThorneDynasty]

If you want to remove all combo interactions, buff/debuff management and just spam one button, go play healer?

[CidHeiral]

Haha, you're literally on a thread about people making personal wishlists for DPS xD just make a wishlist and move on rofl or don't! While I do personally admire the passion of players to actually get worked up and get into debates about hypothetical imaginary wishes of random players. Wishlists are spos to just be for fun! No? Or am I super out of touch here. I apologise if I am xD

Take a breath :P people are bound to have ideas you don't like. I'd imagine a ton of people wont like ideas you have either! Thats okay! Take solace in the fact that we're all just random nobodies in the grand scheme of ff14s development. I don't think anyone throwing up a wishlist here is part of the SE dev team :P just some harmless fun.

I personally find the wackier suggestions very fun like haha that totally wouldnt work. But sometimes while the idea itself is flawed the inspiration behind it can be telling. Sometimes people feel there is an issue or room for improvement but not necessarily have the solution for it and so they just spitball random ideas

Huh? I'm not "worked up" just because my posts aren't "lmao XD I think ur drg suggestions :P aren't good haha XD and u dont know rofl lol xD wat ur talking about lmao XD XD @w@;;;;;;"

[Reldhir]

Huh? I'm not "worked up" just because my posts aren't "lmao XD I think ur drg suggestions :P aren't good haha XD and u dont know rofl lol xD wat ur talking about lmao XD XD @w@;;;;;;"

Fair enough...

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Gomen

[kuroashi_sanji]

More buttons to press and more positionals for melee DPS