Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[OliverQ]

I'm boring and play a male Midlander and I tried the benchmark. While it's not horrible on a Midlander, something just feels off about it. I think the eyes seem worse to me. I prefer the current graphics to the updated ones and I hope they give us the option to not use the new models. I'm really not a fan so far.

[4clubbedace]

I don't think there's a world where this is even remotely close, every single feature on the face is different, and it also looks like she was deaged about 15 years.

It's not even that it looks neccessarily bad but that's not my character.

you posted the same pic twice

[artofincognito]

The sad part about this is, and everyone will disagree with me, as many people have already said this.

The lighting. Thats what is changing 'shapes' you are seeing from before. Before characters were lit from hard angles causing shadows to cover parts of the face.

Now the light is hitting the characters more full-on and refracting properly.

Yes there are some other issues such as eyelashes and eyebrows. But face shapes, lip shapes... haven't drastically changed, at all.

Just... just stop

[HollowedDoll]

The sad part about this is, and everyone will disagree with me, as many people have already said this.

The lighting. Thats what is changing 'shapes' you are seeing from before. Before characters were lit from hard angles causing shadows to cover parts of the face.

Now the light is hitting the characters more full-on and refracting properly.

Yes there are some other issues such as eyelashes and eyebrows. But face shapes, lip shapes... haven't drastically changed, at all.

Thank you for your contribution to this thread, very cool.

[Gember]

I might be the oddball here, but some people's characters in the benchmark actually looks so much better compared to what we have currently. However, I get the sentimental value of the "identity" of our characters. They may look like a completely different person, even with the same features. But-- I really did expect this to happen. When any sort of graphical update happens; it's bound to change the skeletons of the character creation. I think in the long road, the devs are doing a good thing for us, and I believe they are not done with this project either; and it may take them longer than 7.0 to really get everything updated properly.

[cutestfox]

This is beyond "lighting"
there is no coping
this face needs drastic help

[WynterBlue]

Just wanted to leave a comment saying that I fully agree with the OP, my male Viera looks extremely different with the new graphics and it's left me a little worried as I was looking forward to playing DT with him. I'm hoping these issues are addressed by release, if not eventually with time.

Both images below use the same character data, my main complaints are the faded eyebrows, the beauty mark, the different lips, and the eyes/eyelashes overall.



These issues become more apparent during the benchmark as well.

[HollowedDoll]

You just posted the same picture twice... with different lighting. Thats the literal only difference I see there.

FFXIV Shadows on characters has always been horrible. The lighting is better now, so it will make things look a little different.

Why are people so intent on flexxing their lack of eye for details this hard
Let me help.. Curved line =/= Straight line

Looks incredibly similar to me, with lighting being a bit brighter.

I have seen a /few/ odd ducks. Like Au Ra face 4 having dimples when it didn't before.

But on your example the lip shape is roughly the same, just more rounded and realistic.

It's more.. rounded now? Are you sure about that?

Thanks to the other person, the lip change is now noticable. Its not something I even recognized and honestly, that looks like a bug. Au Ra face 4 has a bug where the lips are super tight too. Perhaps related?

I'm just gonna say that if it's not something you notice then perhaps it would be a good idea to take a backseat from the conversation?
and no I don't believe it's a "bug" per se, it's a consequence of them redoing the UV Maps and as a result textures from scratch and not paying enough attention to how things used to be, which is basically what causes the major grievances people have, not the lighting.

Being hostile towards me won't improve my outlook on what you're saying. Yes the general outline of the lips are the same. Yes, they are less pronounced /after/ the change.

It however does not change that they both, are in fact, similar with different lighting.

I would argue that the lips in the original look more 'kissy face' due to the shadows than they were supposed to.

??? You literally just said it was noticeable my god can people stop trying to throw around "big" words like lighting as if you were somehow more in the known about development here, lighting doesn't just turn curved lines into straight ones. I don't think anyone cares about your outlook here, the feedback is towards the devs, and you just come in here and act like you have some sort of authority over things when you can't tell basic geometrical shapes apart, then try to save face by saying "it's close enough ,deal with it" Honestly don't know what y'all get out of this. You're clearly not affected nor do you care.

[buppers]

Looks incredibly similar to me, with lighting being a bit brighter.

I have seen a /few/ odd ducks. Like Au Ra face 4 having dimples when it didn't before.

But on your example the lip shape is roughly the same, just more rounded and realistic.

You know, sometimes it's okay to admit you're wrong.

[Ceetee]

There are a lot of people in here learning for the first time that they have face blindness, and making it everyone elses problem. I'm glad you don't see a difference. As the saying goes, ignorance is bliss. For those of us who CAN notice the differences, its extremely jarring, and acting like a massive swath of people noticing something is just some outlier that can be ignored is ignorant at best and outright malicious at worst.