Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[coffeepotz]

I get the impression that these people either play only msq and then go to play other games and projects, or they are a fan of fantasia and do not get attached to their character, or, saddest of all, they simply do not care what their character looks like! I have no other explanation.

Probably not a good idea to strawman people who disagree. I played since 1.0/2.0 beta. Started as male dusk. I've changed every now and then, but I always go back to my OG character. I like the way the changes look for my character. To say "oh, well you must be a MSQ only or don't care about your character" is simply a poor take imo

[LlymlaenGreene]

Probably not a good idea to strawman people who disagree. I played since 1.0/2.0 beta. Started as male dusk. I've changed every now and then, but I always go back to my OG character. I like the way the changes look for my character. To say "oh, well you must be a MSQ only or don't care about your character" is simply a poor take imo

sorry, I mean a little different, some of the people who only play in msq and they don't care what their characters look like, if I can be more precise. I have friends who only play msq on the same characters and they are wonderful people, it's just that English is not my native language and I can sometimes get confused because there are expressions and meanings that are not the same in my and English, please excuse me again :3 I want to convey the idea that probably many who write that these characters are the same do not really pay much attention to their own characters and tell us in each topic that this is the future and we just need to accept it. They do not pay attention because they have no attachment to their avatars -and I have given possible options, in my opinion, why this is so, yes, I may be absolutely wrong and I apologize if I turn out to be ignorant :3
I personally see how these changes have affected a lot of characters and I see and understand why they are upset, because their character has smaller lips or less expressive eyes, but those people I mean just say, "LOL this is the same character, if you don't like it, then just use a fanta"
* A great solution, isn't it?*

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I hath returned... to present us this gem of a finding:


"Wow uhh... I suppose exploring new world does warrants a stock up of KT tape? XD Y'know, for sore muscles and that, lol"

The hell is that skin texture? Seem to only happen in Gridanian Inn. Not only one but there are more to be found when you play with the lighting angle. How does this manage to not get noticed in quality check?

[...]It's true a lot of the changes and even actual errors are little things--but there's so many of them across all races that it adds up in a way that makes me feel kind of hopeless. It's been difficult to log in knowing so many of my characters may be changing in ways I can't even correct in just two months...[...]

Honestly, after sifting through many pictures of people showcasing what went wrong in the past 2 days, I'm getting too familiar vibe of those times when I had to discern between genuine work of art or AI generated ones. It's like, whoever's doing the quality check or making these design choices does not understand the point of feeling or characterization. I sure hope this is just my brain brewing up some pointless conspiracy & not what actually happened behind the scenes...

[Somnolence]

How does this manage to not get noticed in quality check?

This is why I am confident they just run AI upscale on stuff and since there is too many combinations to review for sure humans had no time to do so

[Doopliss]

Honestly, after sifting through many pictures of people showcasing what went wrong in the past 2 days, I'm getting too familiar vibe of those times when I had to discern between genuine work of art or AI generated ones. It's like, whoever's doing the quality check or making these design choices does not understand the point of feeling or characterization. I sure hope this is just my brain brewing up some pointless conspiracy & not what actually happened behind the scenes...

It's okay, I understand the AI feeling completely. If you've seen some of my comments on other threads, I've been dancing around saying similar conclusions outright. It feels like it should be too silly to say but also like such a real, unfortunate possibility these days. It makes it feel like the update is being done to please higher ups, rather than out of genuine love for the art. I dearly hope that we're both wrong in this case.

The character creator isn’t the final product. They have a disclaimer saying this stuff is still a work in progress. The build from the benchmark itself could be months old.

It hasn’t passed any checks yet because the game is still in development. It’s important to point these issues out, but I don’t think it’s fair to drag the devs for these issues when the product isn’t final. It's entirely possible they fixed this very issue weeks ago internally.

I agree with this as well, and I thank you for reminding people of this and bringing up this possibility. It's difficult for a lot, including myself, to view the situation in a more hopeful lens without things like this in the discussion. Although I don't think they were attempting to drag the developers.

It's clear from the way custom NPC faces are designed, as well as how carefully newer races have been designed to match the existing art style, that the art team cares greatly about this game. It's just that we have no precedent for an update like this, and having this level of mismatching quality given to us makes it hard not to worry these updates (so far) were done through different means.

Okay, off to work for me. I gotta make myself stop lookin' at the forums for real now.

[coffeepotz]

That's understandable. Apologies if I came across as a bit harsh. Seeing post after post of people making blanket statements about the players who are ok with the change was starting to get to me, I admit. But I'm sure its going both ways. I hope CBU3 comes to a solution that makes as many people satisified as possible, including you

[Catwho]

Probably not a good idea to strawman people who disagree. I played since 1.0/2.0 beta. Started as male dusk. I've changed every now and then, but I always go back to my OG character. I like the way the changes look for my character. To say "oh, well you must be a MSQ only or don't care about your character" is simply a poor take imo

Right? 1.0 player as well. I couldn't quite get my 1.0 Lalafell to look like my FFXI Tarurutaru. I couldn't get my 2.0 version to look like the 1.0 version. And now I can't get the 7.0 version to look exactly like the 2.0 version. She's still got the same soul, and as long as she keeps her Legacy tattoo, that's all I really care about.

[DiaDeem]

I get the impression that these people either play only msq and then go to play other games and projects, or they are a fan of fantasia and do not get attached to their character, or, saddest of all, they simply do not care what their character looks like! I have no other explanation.

Or maybe some of us are just legitimately happy with the changes? I've been playing this game for over a decade, I love my character, and I love the graphical update.

I get why people are upset about some things, but stuff like this is why I sometimes wonder why I bother trying to remain fair...

[LlymlaenGreene]

Or maybe some of us are just legitimately happy with the changes? I've been playing this game for over a decade, I love my character, and I love the graphical update.

I get why people are upset about some things, but stuff like this is why I sometimes wonder why I bother trying to remain fair...

I do not dispute that there are those who are satisfied with this, if you carefully read the forums, that is, those who have not been affected by the changes, or those who have become really more beautiful, let's be honest : 3 and there are those who did not win this lottery *, including me* I will now provide you with some screenshots of my character with whom I have 850 hours /playtime and it follows that I am incredibly attached to someone * yes, I do not play with ARR, which is actually a shame that I learned about this great game relatively recently*, and you will say that you would be happy with this Or not? Or someone else tell me if you would like this character of yours to become like this * if he were yours*, because it seems to me that huyr midlander 1 has changed beyond recognition * I have many friends with this type of face and they are all just cuties, which you can't say after the update *

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i know the difference scenes and etc, but any frame in benchmark with my upgraded wol is terrible, yes :3

[Mosha]

I do not dispute that there are those who are satisfied with this, if you carefully read the forums, that is, those who have not been affected by the changes, or those who have become really more beautiful, let's be honest : 3 and there are those who did not win this lottery *, including me* I will now provide you with some screenshots of my character with whom I have 850 hours /playtime and it follows that I am incredibly attached to someone * yes, I do not play with ARR, which is actually a shame that I learned about this great game relatively recently*, and you will say that you would be happy with this or not, or someone else tell me if you would like to, to make this character like this, if he were yours, because it seems to me that huyr midlander 1 has changed beyond recognition * I have many friends with this type of face and they are all just cuties, which you can't say after the update *

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i know the difference scenes and etc, but any frame in benchmark with my upgraded wol is terrible, yes :3

Might want to blank out your chat log.