Quote Originally Posted by Scintilla View Post
I am fully aware of these '2 types of players', so I'm afraid your explanation does not sway me whatsoever.

To me, it is simple: Premade teams are just people who want an easy run of it. Players who want an easy win without having to go through the usual challenges of working as part of the larger alliance team, without having to employ any kind of strategic approach to the game, and without having to input much effort/thought at all. Minimum effort for maximum reward, but one which usually ruins the game for everyone else playing it (including the random players on their own alliance). It's not against the rules, but does push even more players into adopting that 'don't care' attitude and, in time, will turn more and more players away from FLs.

I play multiple games daily across my alts: does endless ice-licking frustrate me? Yes. Does the PvP avoidance of many objective-blind, 'let them fight' players annoy me at times? Yes. Do I strongly dislike the 'we lost, just end it fast' approach of some of those exp players? Yes.
But working as part of this wider team of a mixed range of motivations and abilities is part of the challenge of FLs. Remember: these players exist on every alliance. Everyone is working with such players while trying to push their team to first place, entering as premade is not avoidance of this as you claim - it's just players who find they can't / can't be bothered to win using the typical means and are out to look for an easier and faster option to get a decent win rate
Basically "working as part of this wider team of a mixed range of motivations and abilities is part of the challenge of FLs. "

Disagree on why people join premades, those motivations may vary, in some cases it could be "just people who want an easy run of it" however while that could be true of some people, there are likely people who want to play with their friends, as well as people who want to play with at least a couple of people who they can rely upon - because that is enjoyable. There is a big difference between playing with even a couple of people who have spatial awareness, use their skills, etc. etc.

Also, it is allowed , it is one of the "typical" means. If, on the other hand, you're going to refer to queue-syncing that's another discussion.