Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
I personally greatly disagree that premades cannot be beaten with skill, I've beaten many premades in a completely silent team before. The only reason premades have an advantage is that it requires both team to not feed the premade, this is why I think the players that don't try are the root problem, they're the ones who feed and enable the premade, without food, the premade is nothing. You said it yourself, the premades are likely not top tier players, so if you take away their food, what can they do?

I read earlier that some of you plan to try JP FL, you should give it a shot, maybe you'll see that premades aren't as big of an issue outside of Aether as you thought.
I've never suggested that a premade can't be beat with purely skill. Especially not against bad commanders. But how often is a silent team winning against a premade? I bet you its very rarely. If a team can beat a premade with no communication, or coordination I have to really question whether you're actually facing a premade at all, perhaps a team that just happens to have a lot of DRK players, or just a disorganized group of friends trying to imitate what they saw a premade doing.

Premades don't just win because they are "fed". If you focused on kills the entire match, you lose. Plenty of premades lose matches because they tunnel visioned on killing other players. It takes taking/holding nodes, minimizing losses, and maintaining battle high to win matches. Players that don't try are a symptom of a problem. The problem is Frontlines is not fun or enjoyable for the majority of players who participate in PvP content, either willingly, or unwillingly for rewards. The solution? Make Frontlines fun. That as I've described previously will take a MAJOR overhaul, which is likely not forthcoming since we've had more content removed from frontlines, than we have had added since 6.1.

My JP character will get to the point where its playable in frontlines. Once I stomach clearing ARR for the 18th time again to unlock jobs I personally prefer rolling as.