Frontlines sucks Ultra megathread

[Bonoki]

Battle High is also a problem. I get that it incentivizes faster games and to seak each other for kills, but once a team is dominating in battle fevers, the match is usually decided. There is just no coming back unless the Battle Fever team neglects the PvE aspects in favor of killing.

It's almost more optimal to ignore any of the targetted objectives at the start to rack of Battle Highs/Fevers and then storm the targets later when you can crush them with the power imbalance.

[Mawlzy]

Battle High is also a problem. I get that it incentivizes faster games and to seak each other for kills, but once a team is dominating in battle fevers, the match is usually decided. There is just no coming back unless the Battle Fever team neglects the PvE aspects in favor of killing.

It's almost more optimal to ignore any of the targetted objectives at the start to rack of Battle Highs/Fevers and then storm the targets later when you can crush them with the power imbalance.

Yes, it is. Shame more players haven't understood this.

[Niroken]

Battle High is also a problem. I get that it incentivizes faster games and to seak each other for kills, but once a team is dominating in battle fevers, the match is usually decided. There is just no coming back unless the Battle Fever team neglects the PvE aspects in favor of killing.

It's almost more optimal to ignore any of the targetted objectives at the start to rack of Battle Highs/Fevers and then storm the targets later when you can crush them with the power imbalance.

Battle High is pretty much the worst mechanic in Frontlines and has been for a long time. If SE hadn't completely neglected Frontlines, I doubt the mechanic would have been in the game for so long.

[Neoyoshi]

Wait, what happened to Frontline?

[Mecia]

They need to iterate faster but we're stuck for months on end without changes.

[Dionysius]

The mode need a proper "commander' integration at the beginning of each match, vote a commander and a captain (after player's volunteer). Give them proper command and instructions to lead.
This will be the start instead of relying on Macros and messy callouts.

edit: Embrace the meta.

[Mawlzy]

The mode need a proper "commander' integration at the beginning of each match, vote a commander and a captain (after player's volunteer). Give them proper command and instructions to lead.
This will be the start instead of relying on Macros and messy callouts.

edit: Embrace the meta.

Finally found someone else who likes the idea of dedicated commander for each team!!! And it hadn't actually occurred to me it might also reduce this awful macro spam that many of the self-appointed ad hoc commanders seem to believe is essential. Although I've come to the conclusion that, in most cases, these are simply individuals who regard FL as a stage on which they perform in front of their adoring (?) fans.

And yes. Embracing and/or countering the meta is how PvP evolves. Never thought I'd say this, but a few days ago I had a really enjoyable experience on Shatter. Shout out to commander Xael Jehuty for implementing a novel and effective strat.

[Nobuyuki_Sanada]

Shatter just sucks, too much time hitting ice instead of hitting the opponents.

[Burmecia]

I don't think premades are such a big thing as people make them out to be.
People generally playing like they had blinders on and reacting at snail speed is what is making you lose that game.

[SalamanderIX]

I don't think premades are such a big thing as people make them out to be.
People generally playing like they had blinders on and reacting at snail speed is what is making you lose that game.

It isn't always, but when a team has one it's obvious. Even more obvious when one is on your alliance or multiple matches in a row. You'll see 4 people act in tandem (sometimes a bit too perfectly, making me think bots or tools is involved) and they will rack up early kills and even BH5, and usually win handily.

You can't always blame it for the loss, and sometimes teams are just more on the ball. But it does highlight other issues. The range of Hard CC in PVP that is very potent in Frontlines, and the games issue with not rejecting all types of automated inputs.