I'm bored when I heal because I need more complex DPS rotations

[Supersnow845]

I’ve spent the last 5 pages before this argument specifically asking for near every single heal button SCH has to be nerfed specifically so I would be forced to rely on succor more, use broil less and be more tactical with when you can ED

Are you guys like actually not reading our suggestions or are you reading them, deciding you don’t like our specific suggestions then strawmanning us

I’m genuinely curious, no other section of the forums has such a strong culture of “I read the threads up till now, that’s why I know you didn’t say (exactly what I said) you said (thing I didn’t say)”

[Aravell]

I’ve spent the last 5 pages before this argument specifically asking for near every single heal button SCH has to be nerfed specifically so I would be forced to rely on succor more, use broil less and be more tactical with when you can ED

Are you guys like actually not reading our suggestions or are you reading them, deciding you don’t like our specific suggestions then strawmanning us

I’m genuinely curious, no other section of the forums has such a strong culture of “I read the threads up till now, that’s why I know you didn’t say (exactly what I said) you said (thing I didn’t say)”

Honestly, if anyone else claims that we only say we want more damage buttons and never give suggestions or talk about anything else, literally just link the healer suggestions megathread and say nothing further.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Honestly, if anyone else claims that we only say we want more damage buttons and never give suggestions or talk about anything else, literally just link the healer suggestions megathread and say nothing further.

I’m sure it won’t take too long until another “OMG YOU WANT TO MAKE HEALERS ALL BLM??? NOT IN MY FOURTEEN!! ;;W;;”-pops up and the cycle begins once more.

[Supersnow845]

I’m sure it won’t take too long until another “OMG YOU WANT TO MAKE HEALERS ALL BLM??? NOT IN MY FOURTEEN!! ;;W;;”-pops up and the cycle begins once more.

To be honest the core 6-10 of us need to stop being baited by these people ourselves (I admit I get way too heated way too often)

We should honestly just create a master list of every time one of us makes a point about something and when someone comes in trying to say one of the (insert things we never asked for) we just link the master list

It would be more boring but it might actually get it through people’s heads we aren’t a cabal holding the healer forums hostage demanding BLM level rotations like half the general forum seems to think we are

[Mithron]

we aren’t a cabal holding the healer forums hostage demanding BLM level rotations like half the general forum seems to think we are

I mean, that wouldn't be a bad thing if you were.

[Aravell]

To be honest the core 6-10 of us need to stop being baited by these people ourselves (I admit I get way too heated way too often)

We should honestly just create a master list of every time one of us makes a point about something and when someone comes in trying to say one of the (insert things we never asked for) we just link the master list

It would be more boring but it might actually get it through people’s heads we aren’t a cabal holding the healer forums hostage demanding BLM level rotations like half the general forum seems to think we are

I respect the attempt to correct any misunderstandings that people have. But at some point, it becomes pretty obvious when someone has an idea so deeply set into their mind that they refuse to see a thing any other way, it's best to disengage with those types of people as any discussion will go nowhere fast.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

To be honest the core 6-10 of us need to stop being baited by these people ourselves (I admit I get way too heated way too often)[...]

I respect the attempt to correct any misunderstandings that people have. But at some point, it becomes pretty obvious when someone has an idea so deeply set into their mind that they refuse to see a thing any other way, it's best to disengage with those types of people as any discussion will go nowhere fast.

To be fair in my eyes, it's not about trying to change their mind (I mean that would be nice of a bonus if it actually happens). I'm sure we recognize their stance and they're unlikely to budge---they've made their point, I can't change that. But I can still inform/convince the otherwise to those who read the replies aftermath.

[Sani2341]

We should honestly just create a master list of every time one of us makes a point about something and when someone comes in trying to say one of the (insert things we never asked for) we just link the master list

Now I am imgaining a very bored and fed up forum goer linking to a googledoc with a blunt 'see subsection 4c paragraph a1 for the list of refutations of this argument'

[Aravell]

Now I am imgaining a very bored and fed up forum goer linking to a googledoc with a blunt 'see subsection 4c paragraph a1 for the list of refutations of this argument'

That would be so funny actually. A giant document that refutes every single common argument that pops up from time to time.

To be fair in my eyes, it's not about trying to change their mind (I mean that would be nice of a bonus if it actually happens). I'm sure we recognize their stance and they're unlikely to budge---they've made their point, I can't change that. But I can still inform/convince the otherwise to those who read the replies aftermath.

Honestly, I respect you for that, and everyone else who does the same. The last time I earnestly tried to correct misinformation, I got called all manner of names, so I personally don't bother anymore.