whats up with the pictomancer hate

[Orinori]

Is this a troll? Or am I completely missing the irony?

Sigh. Please, before making accusations like that, list the jobs that are "broody, dark and masculine". Because really, either we're not playing the same game, or there's a huge dose of bad faith somewhere.

PLD? Meh, Gary/Mary-Sue. May villains perish under the yoke of my sacred light! So dark!
WAR? An axe-wielding fool. Goofy as hell. Curious Gorge's stupidity could be considered as a form of tragedy, I'll give you that.
WHM? A madman who talks to spirits and borrows the power of nature, not very dark at all.
SCH? Oh, a cute little fairy, what an edge lord!
AST ? Stars everywhere, azure blue and gold for most of the animations.
Sage ? Hm, serious type. Quite sexy, if I may. But "Dark and masculine" ? Meh.
Monk, Ninja, SAM ? Hmmm... Nope, again. SAM has a serious side, yes, but nothing tormented about it. As for the ninja... Remember the little rabbit that appears when you miss a combo? Yup, now that's testosterone.
BDR & DNC? Shake that ass, Dark Sasuke, and make those menacing musical notes twirl!
On the caster side then, perhaps? RDM... Yeah, still no, crimson everywhere, rather a female type or a light, agile male fighter. The summoner can call Titan. Titan is a real man, muscular and all that, for sure... The guy who hides behind it to cast his spells, a little less so. So, BLM maybe? Hm. Aight, I'll give you that. Because of the name. Forgetting that the whole quest doesn't really take itself seriously by waltzing us between the members of a family of half-portions.

I'm kidding, of course. The fact remains that this argument, if you're serious about it, doesn't hold water at all.

Its bad faith, shes only arguing the take she is because its the opposite of my take and they're salty that I called out the fact that they join Savage PFs that are much further in prog than their current prog point and its led to them being blacklisted by dozens upon dozens of players. It hurt them so bad they made it their signature to try and pretend they were laughing it off. Kinda pathetic really.

[Thurmnmurmn]

Why are you guys so fragile in your own opinion?
You love it? Effing great!
Some don't. Why does it bother you? Because you're a whiney little white knight.. Grow up

Not saying this is the case for everyone but a whole lot of people make FFXIV their entire personality. If you dare speak negative about something in the game they take it as a personal offence.
100% agree with you here. They really need to grow up and get grounded into reality. Some people like it and some people don't. It doesn't change your own or anyone elses feelings towards it.

[sindriiisgaming]

We are criticizing a trailer video presented to us as consumers. So this trailer is complete fair game for us to assess and provide feedback. We have roughly 6-9 months till the release of DT, so NOW is the time for us to get our criticisms in for what's been presented to us. If we wait for the job action trailer or the release of the expansion, it will be too late to have put in our opinions and provided feedback. At that point, the art assets will be largely finalized.

as if theyve never improved that kinda thing before?

[sindriiisgaming]

Why are you guys so fragile in your own opinion?
You love it? Effing great!
Some don't. Why does it bother you? Because you're a whiney little white knight.. Grow up

couldnt i just say the exact same thing about you?
also whats with the unnesscessarily agreesive behaviour? did mommy take away the xbox again?

[sindriiisgaming]

Not saying this is the case for everyone but a whole lot of people make FFXIV their entire personality. If you dare speak negative about something in the game they take it as a personal offence.
100% agree with you here. They really need to grow up and get grounded into reality. Some people like it and some people don't. It doesn't change your own or anyone elses feelings towards it.

i think u should just read the thread tbh. if you think its a white knighting/stanning issue ur honestly strawmanning

[Saraide]

Its bad faith, shes only arguing the take she is because its the opposite of my take and they're salty that I called out the fact that they join Savage PFs that are much further in prog than their current prog point and its led to them being blacklisted by dozens upon dozens of players. It hurt them so bad they made it their signature to try and pretend they were laughing it off. Kinda pathetic really.

No I made it my signature because it's a banger post. I dont even do savage in PF which should be extremely obvious to anyone with knowledge on how to look. How's your savage journey going tho?

[Thurmnmurmn]

i think u should just read the thread tbh. if you think its a white knighting/stanning issue ur honestly strawmanning

This thread and you trying to describe what is and isn't constructive criticism says otherwise.
If people dislike it, let them be. No one is trying to tell you you're wrong for liking it (or at least not that I saw).

[LynxDubh]

as if theyve never improved that kinda thing before?

Yeah, they have. Just to list off a few things I can currently remember:

• The Sage icon
• The Gunbreaker sound effects
• The Dancer fans from the SHB job action trailer

It's not a farfetched concept for the SFX and VFX teams to respond to criticism and make adjustments.

[Nihility]

personally i don't mind the colors or the sounds or the effects, it's just the sheer size of the weapon and the way they try to treat it like it's a little wand sized paintbrush in all the animations.

it's like... just maddening to me i hate it so much. Fully aware it's irrational too but it's such a strong negative response every time i see it.
Kind of funny the people that play FFXIV at the lgs i go to for board games and magic and whatnot actually feel the exact same way about it which is somewhat relieving that it's not just some strange personal tick

[sindriiisgaming]

Yeah, they have. Just to list off a few things I can currently remember:

• The Sage icon
• The Gunbreaker sound effects
• The Dancer fans from the SHB job action trailer

It's not a farfetched concept for the SFX and VFX teams to respond to criticism and make adjustments.

exactly the point im making. why are u acting like they wouldnt improve this too in the future if they genuinly felt it wasnt right. but i think this was part of sakaguchis intention. (you know hes working on 14 now too right?)