whats up with the pictomancer hate

[Merrigan]

Yea it really just does sound like whining about "being excluded" while all other jobs try to appeal to those people aesthetically. I almost feel bad for them.

Is this a troll? Or am I completely missing the irony?

Sigh. Please, before making accusations like that, list the jobs that are "broody, dark and masculine". Because really, either we're not playing the same game, or there's a huge dose of bad faith somewhere.

PLD? Meh, Gary/Mary-Sue. May villains perish under the yoke of my sacred light! So dark!
WAR? An axe-wielding fool. Goofy as hell. Curious Gorge's stupidity could be considered as a form of tragedy, I'll give you that.
WHM? A madman who talks to spirits and borrows the power of nature, not very dark at all.
SCH? Oh, a cute little fairy, what an edge lord!
AST ? Stars everywhere, azure blue and gold for most of the animations.
Sage ? Hm, serious type. Quite sexy, if I may. But "Dark and masculine" ? Meh.
Monk, Ninja, SAM ? Hmmm... Nope, again. SAM has a serious side, yes, but nothing tormented about it. As for the ninja... Remember the little rabbit that appears when you miss a combo? Yup, now that's testosterone.
BDR & DNC? Shake that ass, Dark Sasuke, and make those menacing musical notes twirl!
On the caster side then, perhaps? RDM... Yeah, still no, crimson everywhere, rather a female type or a light, agile male fighter. The summoner can call Titan. Titan is a real man, muscular and all that, for sure... The guy who hides behind it to cast his spells, a little less so. So, BLM maybe? Hm. Aight, I'll give you that. Because of the name. Forgetting that the whole quest doesn't really take itself seriously by waltzing us between the members of a family of half-portions.

I'm kidding, of course. The fact remains that this argument, if you're serious about it, doesn't hold water at all.

[Saraide]

Is this a troll? Or am I completely missing the irony?

Sigh. Please, before making accusations like that, list the jobs that are "broody, dark and masculine". Because really, either we're not playing the same game, or there's a huge dose of bad faith somewhere.

PLD? Meh, Gary/Mary-Sue. May villains perish under the yoke of my sacred light! So dark!
WAR? An axe-wielding fool. Goofy as hell. Curious Gorge's stupidity could be considered as a form of tragedy, I'll give you that.
WHM? A madman who talks to spirits and borrows the power of nature, not very dark at all.
SCH? Oh, a cute little fairy, what an edge lord!
AST ? Stars everywhere, azure blue and gold for most of the animations.
Sage ? Hm, serious type. Quite sexy, if I may. But "Dark and masculine" ? Meh.
Monk, Ninja, SAM ? Hmmm... Nope, again. SAM has a serious side, yes, but nothing tormented about it. As for the ninja... Remember the little rabbit that appears when you miss a combo? Yup, now that's testosterone.
BDR & DNC? Shake that ass, Dark Sasuke, and make those menacing musical notes twirl!
On the caster side then, perhaps? RDM... Yeah, still no, crimson everywhere, rather a female type or a light, agile male fighter. The summoner can call Titan. Titan is a real man, muscular and all that, for sure... The guy who hides behind it to cast his spells, a little less so. So, BLM maybe? Hm. Aight, I'll give you that. Because of the name. Forgetting that the whole quest doesn't really take itself seriously by waltzing us between the members of a family of half-portions.

I'm kidding, of course. The fact remains that this argument, if you're serious about it, doesn't hold water at all.

Like someone said: there is a middle ground between (barbie and dune) teletubby and berserk. All other jobs already fall into that middle ground so you'll have to excuse me for not feeling that bad because one job that allegedly doesnt fall into that middle ground. Watching the job trailer however only indicates that it does infact fall into that middle ground.

[Orinori]

Is this a troll? Or am I completely missing the irony?

Sigh. Please, before making accusations like that, list the jobs that are "broody, dark and masculine". Because really, either we're not playing the same game, or there's a huge dose of bad faith somewhere.

PLD? Meh, Gary/Mary-Sue. May villains perish under the yoke of my sacred light! So dark!
WAR? An axe-wielding fool. Goofy as hell. Curious Gorge's stupidity could be considered as a form of tragedy, I'll give you that.
WHM? A madman who talks to spirits and borrows the power of nature, not very dark at all.
SCH? Oh, a cute little fairy, what an edge lord!
AST ? Stars everywhere, azure blue and gold for most of the animations.
Sage ? Hm, serious type. Quite sexy, if I may. But "Dark and masculine" ? Meh.
Monk, Ninja, SAM ? Hmmm... Nope, again. SAM has a serious side, yes, but nothing tormented about it. As for the ninja... Remember the little rabbit that appears when you miss a combo? Yup, now that's testosterone.
BDR & DNC? Shake that ass, Dark Sasuke, and make those menacing musical notes twirl!
On the caster side then, perhaps? RDM... Yeah, still no, crimson everywhere, rather a female type or a light, agile male fighter. The summoner can call Titan. Titan is a real man, muscular and all that, for sure... The guy who hides behind it to cast his spells, a little less so. So, BLM maybe? Hm. Aight, I'll give you that. Because of the name. Forgetting that the whole quest doesn't really take itself seriously by waltzing us between the members of a family of half-portions.

I'm kidding, of course. The fact remains that this argument, if you're serious about it, doesn't hold water at all.

Its bad faith, shes only arguing the take she is because its the opposite of my take and they're salty that I called out the fact that they join Savage PFs that are much further in prog than their current prog point and its led to them being blacklisted by dozens upon dozens of players. It hurt them so bad they made it their signature to try and pretend they were laughing it off. Kinda pathetic really.

[Saraide]

Its bad faith, shes only arguing the take she is because its the opposite of my take and they're salty that I called out the fact that they join Savage PFs that are much further in prog than their current prog point and its led to them being blacklisted by dozens upon dozens of players. It hurt them so bad they made it their signature to try and pretend they were laughing it off. Kinda pathetic really.

No I made it my signature because it's a banger post. I dont even do savage in PF which should be extremely obvious to anyone with knowledge on how to look. How's your savage journey going tho?

[PercibelTheren]

Obviously: we have too many colorful, fanciful, playful looking jobs in this game already. It's time to put had stop on this nonsense!

Would someone please think of people exclusively interested in broody, dark and masculine aesthetics? It will be painfully hard for them to enjoy this job.

And I'm pretty sure pictomancer is genderlocked, too? Yeah, if you view the keynote in severse, slowed down by 50% you can see the message flashing in the background.
Says "GSRM only".

I'm not sure gender has anything to do with it. I'm a woman. I main healers. Throwing glitter and flowers everywhere isn't exactly the peak of traditional masculinity. My biggest hope is we will have a druid/shaman type of nature healer or DPS some day in the future. Still doesn't mean I like Pictomancer.

[KageTokage]

If they had gone for something more...dignified like a professional landscape artist aesthetic instead of cartoony grade schooler I think it would've been more broadly appealing.

[HeyMcFly]

I hope pictomancer becomes more in line with what we saw Krile do in the DT trailer- the glowy magic, sparkles and just prettiness. You see the brush strokes even amongst all of the effects and it's just very, very colorful. I'm an artist who loves color so it's right up my alley- Not every class has to appeal to everyone because that is how things currently are anyways. Reaper doesn't appeal to me at all, Astrologian and DNC do. Those don't appeal to everyone where reaper does and so on.
What we saw Krile do imo was very appealing but compared to what we were shown in the in game reveal, which felt more like Splatoon and looked kind of bland.

Less splatoon ink jets and instead, more sparkles and glowy effects and paintbrush strokes.

[Yuella]

This board is full of negative people with no life who like to complain about everything. They're in the minority. Pay them no mind.

[SeriousPan]

I feel like if the reveal trailer didn't have the character going "Tee-hee" and winking at us as she playfully splatoons the screen then the more vocal haters wouldn't have disliked it as much. Could chalk it up to dislike of 'cutesy' aesthetics or people wanting Pictomancer to be more serious looking art I guess.

[Thurmnmurmn]

This board is full of negative people with no life who like to complain about everything. They're in the minority. Pay them no mind.

The title of the thread is asking why the hate. Saying pay them no mind when the question was asked initially is kinda dumb.
People are allowed to dislike thing you like. As you said, pay them no mind.