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    whats up with the pictomancer hate

    yo, this is getting wild. the job isnt even a week old and already people cannot handle it.

    1 thread says its not neon enough, another says its too neon.
    1 thread says the gear is too cartoony, 1 says its not cartoony enough
    sevral people said theyre going to unsub just because of it
    sevral said theyde kick pictomancers from there pf
    sevral said picto was out of place in ff ( i guess they forgot about spriggan bombs, chocomog and cactuars)
    sevral people said its a GIRLS and LGBT only job (this is the most laughable 1 so far)

    and yea, btw i can cite all the times ive seen this if you wanna see it.. but what the actual hell people.. this job isnt even out yet and already people are going feral over it

    as a lgbtq/girl/irl pictomancer.. i cant wait for this job!
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    Last edited by sindriiisgaming; 01-11-2024 at 11:57 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    Its a pre expansion tradition! Gotta hate on the new jobs before even seeing the final results or playing ourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    Its a pre expansion tradition! Gotta hate on the new jobs before even seeing the final results or playing ourselves.
    dont remember reaper getting treatment but hey if it did id love to see it
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    dont remember reaper getting treatment but hey if it did id love to see it
    That's probably cause:

    A) Everyone WoW that was coming over to FFXIV was brand new at the time was behaving all googly eyed over it for reaction content.
    B) Reaper was essentially Necromancer which at the time was a job MANY MANY people were asking for. The moment everyone saw the Scythe, it was the biggest hype around. It also pleased both masculine and feminine groups equally.

    As for Pictomancer, nobody was really asking for Pictomancer until Yoshi-P wore the TMNT shirt. Some people feel a bit let down and even betrayed after Yoshi-P made a portion of the community believed we were going to get brand new original jobs and not classic fan service jobs. For some people, Pictomancer is to girly in their opinion, and they are tired of this game putting feminine things front and center. Lastly, for some, a paint brush isn't a serious weapon. One of my friends even said that they are glad picto came after EW because they wouldn't have been able to immerse themselves seriously against Zeno if they were using paint. Some people just can't see a painter as a serious combat job, and just feel it's more so Twitter artists can feel more immersed with their irl job of being a painter.

    I've seen all of these complaints around, yes even the twitter one. To them, its nothing more than LGBT the job, since most twitter artists are exactly that and therefore it feels immersive breaking to them that every time they think of Pictomancer they just think of Twitter instead.

    Overall, I'm pretty sure Viper has more hate than Picto since the Corsair crowd was more disappointed and louder than the Green Mage crowd. Most of the Green Mage crowd was just hoping for a true support role akin to Dancer.

    Edit: There is also a small portion of people that are upset because they thought Painter could have gone to crafting instead.

    Edit 2: Some people are fine with Pictomancer as well, but just hate that Krile is becoming a star figure this expansion when they find her uninteresting.
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    Last edited by Bonoki; 01-12-2024 at 01:09 AM.
    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    That's probably cause:

    A) Everyone WoW that was coming over to FFXIV was brand new at the time was behaving all googly eyed over it for reaction content.
    eh, as a past WoW player, I think people were more excited about Reaper because it's like Demon Hunter, which is also why it's my second main, being I played DH. Wouldn't say it was farming reaction content, that's pretty disingenuous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MahthildisMMORPG View Post
    eh, as a past WoW player, I think people were more excited about Reaper because it's like Demon Hunter, which is also why it's my second main, being I played DH. Wouldn't say it was farming reaction content, that's pretty disingenuous.
    A lot of creators were definitely milking content, and everyone knows they were. Nothing disingenuous about it. Doesn't mean they also weren't sincere in liking the job. This is a case of it was probably both.
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    Last edited by Bonoki; 01-14-2024 at 04:04 AM.
    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    Its a pre expansion tradition! Gotta hate on the new jobs before even seeing the final results or playing ourselves.
    To be fair, I don't think I've seen such complaints before. Gunbreaker was welcomed as far as I know.
    Dancer was less appreciated as people had many expectations about a new healer.

    Reaper and Sage were also welcomed and I don't remember anyone voicing concern about the jobs style and personality.

    I believe the concerns are voiced by two majors groups.
    You have people hating on Pictomancer because it's not the Green mage they wanted.
    You have people who waited on a new caster but the job doesn't fit their tastes.

    I don't like Pictomancer but I'm happy for SQEX to make choice that won't try to please everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    dont remember reaper getting treatment but hey if it did id love to see it
    Oh it certainly did, from effect color to the void form folks did indeed hate on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    Oh it certainly did, from effect color to the void form folks did indeed hate on it.
    i vaguely recall folks complaining about 'race erasure' when the character went into its 'enshroud mode'.

    i think folks will hate on picto more because of its 'childish' aesthetic, i guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    i vaguely recall folks complaining about 'race erasure' when the character went into its 'enshroud mode'.

    i think folks will hate on picto more because of its 'childish' aesthetic, i guess.
    oh my god seriosly? ahahhahahaa

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    Oh it certainly did, from effect color to the void form folks did indeed hate on it.
    citation needed
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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