whats up with the pictomancer hate

[WeissTuna]

- We dont know its job guage/resources

- We dont know all of its skills

- We dont know what sort of buffs or extra utility theyll be bringing to the party, besides lack of rez

- We dont know the rotation

- We dont know the meta


Yeah Im pretty sure just looking at vague skills and visual effects isnt fully enough to warrant to form a valid opinion of the job. Like I said, I understand first impressions but the trailer is so lackluster that any current opinions are at this point groundless. Try again

No one is claiming the whole class will be bad, I'm not sure how you're getting that from these responses. The prior post has said initial, meaning from what they see right now. Logically, with that limited knowledge, what they're saying doesn't make their point any less valid because it is solely an initial impression based on a video. You're the only one who's mentioned anything of the skills, flow, rotation, etc. when most are only concerned about the paint aesthetic or that it looks lackluster. Not that it "feels" so, because obviously, no one has played it yet.

[SanibelIsland]

From what I've seen, this job is not for me. Might be my age, because I am, I think a lot older then the average player. I like Krile, but pictomancer...nah, not really. It doesn't appeal to me in any way.

[Atelier-Bagur]

No one is claiming the whole class will be bad, I'm not sure how you're getting that from these responses. The prior post has said initial, meaning from what they see right now. Logically, with that limited knowledge, what they're saying doesn't make their point any less valid because it is solely an initial impression based on a video. You're the only one who's mentioned anything of the skills, flow, rotation, etc. when most are only concerned about the paint aesthetic or that it looks lackluster. Not that it "feels" so, because obviously, no one has played it yet.

If thats true then why are people being judgemental andys about the class when its still not released? Why go so out of their way to express such strong opinions both good and bad?

The only thing valid is just the concern of the paint aesthetic, everything else is moot.

[sindriiisgaming]

The only decent looking battle effect shown in the trailer.



These are awful.

i actually like them. so its entirley subjective. i am also a manga artist so i feel this appeals to me more

[WeissTuna]

If thats true then why are people being judgemental andys about the class when its still not released? Why go so out of their way to express such strong opinions both good and bad?

The only thing valid is just the concern of the paint aesthetic, everything else is moot.

Ever heard of judging a book by its cover? People could end up being correct, or they could end up being incorrect when it comes to how the class plays. It's all opinion. And even then, people can fairly judge from what we see.

Nothing factual can be said about the class outside of its aesthetic(Which mostly falls to opinion anyway). To argue against others who would push further than that, is a waste of time. You may as well be swinging at air.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Ever heard of judging a book by its cover? People could end up being correct, or they could end up being incorrect. It's all opinion. And even then, people can fairly judge from what we see.

Nothing factual can be said about the class outside of its aesthetic(Which mostly falls to opinion anyway). To argue against others who would push further than that, is a waste of time. You may as well be swinging at air.

Basically this entire conversation is pointless. Glad we both wasted our time then

[Atelier-Bagur]

Ever heard of judging a book by its cover? People could end up being correct, or they could end up being incorrect when it comes to how the class plays. It's all opinion. And even then, people can fairly judge from what we see.

Nothing factual can be said about the class outside of its aesthetic(Which mostly falls to opinion anyway). To argue against others who would push further than that, is a waste of time. You may as well be swinging at air.

Also btw that "judging a book by its cover" is usually a critique on people who only look at things at face value and how nonsensical those judgements can be most of the time.

Aka the phrase youre looking for is "dont judge a book by its cover". Just fyi

[WeissTuna]

Basically this entire conversation is pointless. Glad we both wasted our time then

Well the point of a forum is to promote discussion and argument. When you willingly insert words in others context they never said, you're arguing poorly. Making that little "Try again" remark of yours look very silly and it honestly kind of annoyed me.

I lurk really often so I'm not wasting my time.

Also btw that "judging a book by its cover" is usually a critique on people who only look at things at face value and how nonsensical those judgements can be most of the time.

And you would be correct if not for the "nonsensical most of the time" part.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Well the point of a forum is to promote discussion and argument. When you willingly insert words in others context they never said, you're arguing poorly. Making that little "Try again" remark of yours look very silly and it honestly kind of annoyed me.

I lurk really often so I'm not wasting my time.

I can respect that you did indeed "try again".

[Khryseis_Astra]

If thats true then why are people being judgemental andys about the class when its still not released? Why go so out of their way to express such strong opinions both good and bad?

The only thing valid is just the concern of the paint aesthetic, everything else is moot.

For me personally, I’m offering feedback because I’m excited to play the class. And I want to love it! I don’t offer criticism on anything just to be negative, but because I love this game and want things to be even better.