whats up with the pictomancer hate

[SanibelIsland]

From what I've seen, this job is not for me. Might be my age, because I am, I think a lot older then the average player. I like Krile, but pictomancer...nah, not really. It doesn't appeal to me in any way.

[TaleraRistain]

From what I've seen, this job is not for me. Might be my age, because I am, I think a lot older then the average player. I like Krile, but pictomancer...nah, not really. It doesn't appeal to me in any way.

Nah, not really age. I'm 44 and I think it looks like silly fun. I'm definitely going to try it.

To the topic at hand, as someone mentioned in the second or third post, new jobs always have people excited and people complain about them. I remember that even for something that was as wanted as Red Mage.

[Merrigan]

Nah, not really age. I'm 44 and I think it looks like silly fun. I'm definitely going to try it.

To the topic at hand, as someone mentioned in the second or third post, new jobs always have people excited and people complain about them. I remember that even for something that was as wanted as Red Mage.

I can't talk for everybody (duh, captain Obvious Merri'), but it's the first time I have such a strong reaction to a job. I didn't really liked reaper, but it was just... "Meh, guess I will see".

Here the aeshtetics is so particular, that I had a strong reaction to it. The fact that it's so special in terms of rendering certainly explains the reticence of many, because I don't think the game contains any other classes as... original, let's put it that way.

[SanibelIsland]

Nah, not really age. I'm 44 and I think it looks like silly fun. I'm definitely going to try it.

I'm well in my 60's and after reading some comments, I think the "cartoon" effect is a let down for me. But never too old to learn something new, so who knows.

[Atelier-Bagur]

No one is claiming the whole class will be bad, I'm not sure how you're getting that from these responses. The prior post has said initial, meaning from what they see right now. Logically, with that limited knowledge, what they're saying doesn't make their point any less valid because it is solely an initial impression based on a video. You're the only one who's mentioned anything of the skills, flow, rotation, etc. when most are only concerned about the paint aesthetic or that it looks lackluster. Not that it "feels" so, because obviously, no one has played it yet.

If thats true then why are people being judgemental andys about the class when its still not released? Why go so out of their way to express such strong opinions both good and bad?

The only thing valid is just the concern of the paint aesthetic, everything else is moot.

[WeissTuna]

If thats true then why are people being judgemental andys about the class when its still not released? Why go so out of their way to express such strong opinions both good and bad?

The only thing valid is just the concern of the paint aesthetic, everything else is moot.

Ever heard of judging a book by its cover? People could end up being correct, or they could end up being incorrect when it comes to how the class plays. It's all opinion. And even then, people can fairly judge from what we see.

Nothing factual can be said about the class outside of its aesthetic(Which mostly falls to opinion anyway). To argue against others who would push further than that, is a waste of time. You may as well be swinging at air.

[Orinori]

If thats true then why are people being judgemental andys about the class when its still not released? Why go so out of their way to express such strong opinions both good and bad?

The only thing valid is just the concern of the paint aesthetic, everything else is moot.

Its FFXIV, all jobs are is aesthetic. There are like 3 unique jobs in terms of gameplay and the rest are copy pastes with minor adjustments and 1 or 2 unique buttons out of 30. Most people play jobs based on the aesthetic first, and then later decide if they like the gameplay. If someone doesn't like the 7 year old girl's backpack stickers aesthetic for a job, they aren't going to care how it plays, they don't care about the rotation, they don't care what kind of support it gives, they don't want to play a job designed to look like kindergarten glitter glue.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Ever heard of judging a book by its cover? People could end up being correct, or they could end up being incorrect. It's all opinion. And even then, people can fairly judge from what we see.

Nothing factual can be said about the class outside of its aesthetic(Which mostly falls to opinion anyway). To argue against others who would push further than that, is a waste of time. You may as well be swinging at air.

Basically this entire conversation is pointless. Glad we both wasted our time then

[WeissTuna]

Basically this entire conversation is pointless. Glad we both wasted our time then

Well the point of a forum is to promote discussion and argument. When you willingly insert words in others context they never said, you're arguing poorly. Making that little "Try again" remark of yours look very silly and it honestly kind of annoyed me.

I lurk really often so I'm not wasting my time.

Also btw that "judging a book by its cover" is usually a critique on people who only look at things at face value and how nonsensical those judgements can be most of the time.

And you would be correct if not for the "nonsensical most of the time" part.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Ever heard of judging a book by its cover? People could end up being correct, or they could end up being incorrect when it comes to how the class plays. It's all opinion. And even then, people can fairly judge from what we see.

Nothing factual can be said about the class outside of its aesthetic(Which mostly falls to opinion anyway). To argue against others who would push further than that, is a waste of time. You may as well be swinging at air.

Also btw that "judging a book by its cover" is usually a critique on people who only look at things at face value and how nonsensical those judgements can be most of the time.

Aka the phrase youre looking for is "dont judge a book by its cover". Just fyi