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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Because the developers designed the system to permit multiple ownership despite not allocating sufficient resources for every player to participate and obtain the housing of their choice.

    They could have designed the system to allow multiple ownership for ALL players as many other MMORPGs chose to do but didn't.

    I doubt anyone purchased FFXIV because they wanted to be a test subject in a social engineering project revolving around housing. There shouldn't be any need for talk about "social consequences and cultural attitudes" when it comes to housing in a game. Social consequences are a discussion for content that require direct player to player interaction. Housing acquisition is between the player and the game, not the player and other players.

    I'm not going to fault those who do what the game allows, even if I wish they would choose differently. I will fault the game developers who chose to create the problem in the first place when other games have shown it doesn't need to be a problem at all.
    Housing does not exist in a vacuum. Any situation in which a person's actions affect another is a social one. You're right in that greater change can only be enacted by SE, but individuals are accountable for their actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impia View Post
    Housing does not exist in a vacuum. Any situation in which a person's actions affect another is a social one. You're right in that greater change can only be enacted by SE, but individuals are accountable for their actions.
    What are they supposed to account for in this case when the only authority, Square Enix, has intentionally allowed multiple house ownership? By playing the game we agree to the rules that SE has created for it, including those for housing.

    Harassing those who do what SE allows accomplishes nothing. You're more likely to get those who are being harassed to dig in their heels and take further advantage of what the game rules allow than to get them to change. No one is interested in being forced to give up what they've worked to gain. There are always going to be those who see themselves as separate from society and who will not respond to societal pressure. Trying to get them to change voluntarily is like banging your head against a brick wall.

    Even if they do cooperate, it does not solve the underlying issues. The demand is for medium and large houses, and there simply are not enough to go around. Players also want the supply to be available on the worlds where they already play instead of having to move to where the supply exists. Unless SE has been overwhelmingly impressed with the cloud test and migrates existing worlds to the cloud, that's not likely to happen.

    What is needed is a fundamental change to future housing development in the game. That has to come from SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    What are they supposed to account for in this case when the only authority, Square Enix, has intentionally allowed multiple house ownership? By playing the game we agree to the rules that SE has created for it, including those for housing.

    Harassing those who do what SE allows accomplishes nothing. You're more likely to get those who are being harassed to dig in their heels and take further advantage of what the game rules allow than to get them to change. No one is interested in being forced to give up what they've worked to gain. There are always going to be those who see themselves as separate from society and who will not respond to societal pressure. Trying to get them to change voluntarily is like banging your head against a brick wall.

    Even if they do cooperate, it does not solve the underlying issues. The demand is for medium and large houses, and there simply are not enough to go around. Players also want the supply to be available on the worlds where they already play instead of having to move to where the supply exists. Unless SE has been overwhelmingly impressed with the cloud test and migrates existing worlds to the cloud, that's not likely to happen.

    What is needed is a fundamental change to future housing development in the game. That has to come from SE.
    Mao sad. Jojoya keeps telling basic truths and peoples keep ignoring those truths. Lottery was never the problem. The problem always was demand outstripping supply. That supply is limited because of the housings system SE CHOSE. Many peoples here, including Jojoya, has offered suggestions on how to improve housings. So far SE nots so much as given peeps about thems suggestions. At this point, Mao thinkings best peoples can hopes for is more wards and maybe new city openings up with wards.
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