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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
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    You are stretching so far to consider me an elitist, so I will stretch the same distance for you, Sylphie. But since you insist, I will call you by a different label, Mr. I don't want to do more work for maximum performance. I'm only being as mean to you as you are to me, it's only because you so desperately want me to fit your label while completely ignoring that I'm not part of this elite and also made sure everyone would still be able to clear, I did the math, that you deny the factual math is not my problem.

    You claim you're not here to call me names, yet you're still pushing the point, I asked you to retract the label because it doesn't fit and you stretch the label to try and fit me anyway, and you wonder why you keep getting into fights with people, but I guess it's fine when you hit people with labels and insult them directly but it's suddenly too much when people do it to you. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, sir.

    [A reminder that I'm proposing a 10-20% gap between current ceiling and new ceiling, reminder that 10% is around 600 dps and that 600 dps is barely 1% of the amount required for the dps check of the first floor of savage, reminder that you are arguing against healers doing 1% less to the boss HP bar.]

    Also nice goalpost move from "people who are doing the same rotation now won't be able to clear extremes" to "full party of 0 logs can no longer clear extremes". You're just refusing to admit the reality that what you're describing doesn't happen enough to be an actual problem. You are refusing to admit that a good player will balance out a bad player and make it no longer an issue. You are trying to argue that if my proposed changes happen, people will suddenly become bad players and that's frankly ridiculous. But I'm done with this, you won't admit you're wrong while telling me I won't admit I'm wrong, even though I have math to backup my assertions and you have no data except anecdotes.

    One more thing, you keep asserting that I don't care for casuals. You actually know nothing. I happen to have a very close casual friend and I made sure he wouldn't be harmed by the changes I propose. Do you have any hardcore friends to ask them if your proposed changes would be liked by them?

    EDIT: Funny thought, if there is no clear log of a full team of 0s, then that already immediately defeats your argument that everything has to be tuned to the lowest output, because it currently isn't tuned to the lowest, because a full party at the lowest cannot clear.
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    Last edited by Aravell; 11-23-2023 at 07:11 PM.