Auto Attack wins!

[Kaedan]

Wow I can't believe all the hate for auto attack, do you think the game plays itself for you or something because of it??? It worked fine in FFXI a little slow but they says it will be speeded up for FFXIV. If you think the battle system in FFXI was boring and you just engaged and let auto attack go and did nothing else you were doing it wrong lol

Yes, actually, that's exactly what many people think. And in fact, it was a huge problem in FFXI.

If you play most melee jobs in FFXI, this is how combat goes: Wait for 100% TP > macro. Wait > macro. Wait > macro. And all that waiting is just watching your character auto attack until they have TP again. It's BORING. AS. HELL.

And it's an excuse for many people to do something else while playing, like watching TV.

I'm just hoping they learned from their mistakes in FFXI and find a way to implement AA decently... but I'm not holding my breath.

[WonderBoy]

Yes, actually, that's exactly what many people think. And in fact, it was a huge problem in FFXI.

If you play most melee jobs in FFXI, this is how combat goes: Wait for 100% TP > macro. Wait > macro. Wait > macro. And all that waiting is just watching your character auto attack until they have TP again. It's BORING. AS. HELL.

And it's an excuse for many people to do something else while playing, like watching TV.

I'm just hoping they learned from their mistakes in FFXI and find a way to implement AA decently... but I'm not holding my breath.

Well my hope would be that AA would be providing some base damage, with TP generating attacks and TP consuming attacks comprising the actual interaction.

[Kaedan]

Well my hope would be that AA would be providing some base damage, with TP generating attacks and TP consuming attacks comprising the actual interaction.

And what is the benefit of waiting a few seconds watching your character play itself (AA) before activating TP skills, over hitting the "attack" button a few times (current system) before doing the same?

I'll tell you exactly what... LAZINESS. That's all it boils down to.


But regardless, what's done is done, so no use arguing about it.

What we have to hope now is that they implement it in such a way as it isn't lame like it was in FFXI.

[Keith_Dragoon]

Yes, actually, that's exactly what many people think. And in fact, it was a huge problem in FFXI.

If you play most melee jobs in FFXI, this is how combat goes: Wait for 100% TP > macro. Wait > macro. Wait > macro. And all that waiting is just watching your character auto attack until they have TP again. It's BORING. AS. HELL.

And it's an excuse for many people to do something else while playing, like watching TV.

I'm just hoping they learned from their mistakes in FFXI and find a way to implement AA decently... but I'm not holding my breath.

I used my job abilities alot while auto-attacking and that concept isn't the same in this game as 100% TP is not required to fire off a skill, anywhere from 250-3000 depending on the skill so it shouldn't be too boring.

Personally I was a very talkative person in XI so aside from building TP and firing off JAs I was having a conversation and interacting with my fellow players.

[Kaedan]

I used my job abilities alot while auto-attacking and that concept isn't the same in this game as 100% TP is not required to fire off a skill, anywhere from 250-3000 depending on the skill so it shouldn't be too boring.

Personally I was a very talkative person in XI so aside from building TP and firing off JAs I was having a conversation and interacting with my fellow players.

Oh, let me guess? Samurai? That's why I said "most melee jobs". Samurai and Thief were exceptions.

It's great that you play the game to have conversations... some people actually play the game to play the game.

[trinta]

Oh, let me guess? Samurai? That's why I said "most melee jobs". Samurai and Thief were exceptions.

It's great that you play the game to have conversations... some people actually play the game to play the game.

So you're not from the "More group content, stop catering to solo players, this is an MMO, if you don't want to socialize go back to single-player RPGs" camp?

[Kaedan]

So you're not from the "More group content, stop catering to solo players, this is an MMO, if you don't want to socialize go back to single-player RPGs" camp?

Umm... you can be in groups and be "social" without spending most of your time in combat chatting away incessantly while waiting for your character to build up TP. We also have this nifty program called "Vent".

[kukurumei]

Umm... you can be in groups and be "social" without spending most of your time in combat chatting away incessantly while waiting for your character to build up TP. We also have this nifty program called "Vent".

Vent... how "NA" of you

I suppose you were one of those DDs that just whistled at 100% TP.

While other people had to be puller, had 1st provoke shifts to eat the shadows, then had to crossbow bolt the enemy for def down and other debuffs. And perish the thought of advance techniques like pulling before the enemy is dead, for chain 4-5-6, etc.

[Kaedan]

Vent... how "NA" of you

NA? As in North America?

If that's what you're implying, we had Japanese players on Vent all the time. And when they had trouble with English, I helped them translate.