Auto Attack wins!

[Lamhirh]

the masses are not playing, cos the game have NO advertisement, and everyone says the game is horrible. even if this would be best game ever, the bad name will stay, at least for 12-18 months. and people gave ga,e bad reveievs, becouse they were too lazy to realy learn the mechanics and coupled with miriads of small but annoying problems, created common opinion.

also 'masses' are too dumb and lazy to play good game. they want a game that you can pwn noobs with single button.

Also yuo can turn of autofacing (config-> auto lock OFF) butr it keeps returning for me everytime i restart game >_>

Ninja edit:

Battle involvement CANNOT stay ythe same with autoatack. its the definition of automating something: reduction of human involvement.

[Kaedan]

also 'masses' are too dumb and lazy to play good game. they want a game that you can pwn noobs with single button.

I'm telling you guys, the true WoW killer is going to be the MMO that has the "I WIN" button.

[TheVedis]

I'm telling you guys, the true WoW killer is going to be the MMO that has the "I WIN" button.

Champions had one of those at launch
and people complained like mad when they took it away the next week

[trinta]

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Also yuo can turn of autofacing (config-> auto lock OFF) butr it keeps returning for me everytime i restart game >_>

Stupid question, are you shutting down properly? The setting saves fine for me.

[WonderBoy]

the masses are not playing, cos the game have NO advertisement, and everyone says the game is horrible. even if this would be best game ever, the bad name will stay, at least for 12-18 months. and people gave ga,e bad reveievs, becouse they were too lazy to realy learn the mechanics and coupled with miriads of small but annoying problems, created common opinion.

also 'masses' are too dumb and lazy to play good game. they want a game that you can pwn noobs with single button.

Also yuo can turn of autofacing (config-> auto lock OFF) butr it keeps returning for me everytime i restart game >_>

Ninja edit:

Battle involvement CANNOT stay ythe same with autoatack. its the definition of automating something: reduction of human involvement.

For what it's worth, WoW has autoattack and it has next to zero impact on involvement. It represents roughly 5% of my damage output, and I activate an ability every 1-2 seconds on top of that. So it's not like adding auto attack to the game suddenly means you're just watching your character attack now.

[Lamhirh]

indeed it have next to 0 impact on involvement. The game is too boring anyway <_< so simplifiedit makes you go and puke. Simplification and skillspam.

[solracht]

people gave ga,e bad reveievs, becouse they were too lazy to realy learn the mechanics and coupled with miriads of small but annoying problems, created common opinion.

indeed it have next to 0 impact on involvement. The game is too boring anyway <_< so simplifiedit makes you go and puke. Simplification and skillspam.

No offense, but at some point you can't help but think badly of someone who is basically saying "everyone but me is wrong and not getting it".

Game was bad, and the developers think so too, that's why you're not paying for the game. In the long run, it won't matter if those who liked the original systems aren't around when everything is said and done. That's why this approach is being taken.

Again, we (those playing right now) aren't the customers they're aiming for, because we're the minority.

[trinta]

For what it's worth, WoW has autoattack and it has next to zero impact on involvement. It represents roughly 5% of my damage output, and I activate an ability every 1-2 seconds on top of that. So it's not like adding auto attack to the game suddenly means you're just watching your character attack now.

I think what people are upset about is that's what it did mean to certain jobs in FFXI. I'm hopeful that SE will recognize that's the source of the anger and prevent it from recurring here.

I know that auto-attack isn't significant in either time or total damage in any other game I have played--yes, definitely including WoW, where anyone only doing "white damage" is laughed out of the raid and probably off of the server.

[Verecund]

For what it's worth, WoW has autoattack and it has next to zero impact on involvement. It represents roughly 5% of my damage output, and I activate an ability every 1-2 seconds on top of that. So it's not like adding auto attack to the game suddenly means you're just watching your character attack now.

Not sure if it's still like that in Cata, but I know that for classes like rogues and warriors in WoW, auto-attack is the biggest source of damage (for most of the game's existence up until now). BUT. This does, by no means whatsoever, mean you can AFK fights and win (to anyone thinking this is the case). Not only are fights not tuned that retardedly low, but abilities and class mechanics are built up so that everything feeds into each other.

Auto-attack shouldn't even remotely be an issue if the game is constantly being balanced, as it should be, being an ever-evolving MMO.