Dark Knight Megathread

[Shurrikhan]

Also, side note; on the topic of button bloat for Dark Knight, for my idea I reduced the total number of actions from 36, including Grit, Sprint and Limit Break, to 29 actions total.

??? Are you referring to suggestions made on another threat / not within the last dozen pages? There isn't a single removal mentioned in your post. Turning oGCDs into GCDs doesn't remove buttons. It merely makes them compete with each other far worse.

if we apply the provoke suggestion though you would need to make provoke AoE, or you could bring back enmity management for all tanks.

There's no need to have an AoE Provoke. The only use for Provoke is to not need to be able to Shirk, nor, in effect, turn our tank enmity bonus off. By just having the tank stance be already activated upon joining any instance on and the MT opening with Provoke, you'd never need to have "Release [Stance]" on one's bar for mainstay content.

You don't use Provoke to replace Tank Stance; you use it to replace it needing a button.

Alright, but how do you address the boring filler rotation for Dark Knight then, especially at the lower levels?

I have no idea what qualifies as boring filler to you. To me, every tank has a boring filler rotation. And, to me, almost every job is dull before level 70ish (certainly before 60).

[DRKoftheAzure]

??? Are you referring to suggestions made on another threat / not within the last dozen pages? There isn't a single removal mentioned in your post. Turning oGCDs into GCDs doesn't remove buttons. It merely makes them compete with each other far worse.

I technically added 6 buttons, including a predecessor to Shadowbringer at level 62, 7 if you want to include the summon pet rename, consolidated 4 buttons into 1 button, 3 buttons into 1 button, and yet ANOTHER 3 buttons into 1 button, both both sets of 3 being consolidated combos, for a net reduction of 7, 6 if count the renamed summon pet ability. Kept the relatively high APM as best as I could, added pity systems for a suggested Dark Arts rework, because while removing buttons might be easier to balance and to sell and expansions worth of abilities, it would probably be more effective for a rework, like the one I suggested while still introducing an expansions worth of abilities, even if it throws balance out the window for half of an expansion.

So you cannot tell me I didn't reduce button bloat with my idea, which I have a mostly final version of on the top of the previous page. VERY HARD TO MISS IT. In fact you responded to it.

There's no need to have an AoE Provoke. The only use for Provoke is to not need to be able to Shirk, nor, in effect, turn our tank enmity bonus off. By just having the tank stance be already activated upon joining any instance on and the MT opening with Provoke, you'd never need to have "Release [Stance]" on one's bar for mainstay content.

You don't use Provoke to replace Tank Stance; you use it to replace it needing a button.

You should have mentioned that the first time.

I have no idea what qualifies as boring filler to you. To me, every tank has a boring filler rotation.

Spamming 1-2-3 with the occasional 4 every 30 or so seconds and MAYBE a 1 oGCD every 30 or so seconds, especially if it's for an entire fight or dungeon run...