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  1. #4111
    Player
    DRKoftheAzure's Avatar
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    Gridania and Ul'dah (because Ishgard not allowed to be starting city-state :c)
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    Character
    Strea Leonhart
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Probably not, honestly. The Limited Leveling Roulette option already removed any chance of getting saddled with a low-level dungeon without that being a function of you doing what the roulette was intended to do (help support queues).
    Limited leveling roulette is glitched, and doesn't work as intended. Just putting that out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    While I wouldn't personally mind the option to work harder for the same throughput (me doing perfect Optimal Drift rotations and demanding perfectly paced pulls from my tank while the actual level 18 just goes 123 12(4)3 123 123 for roughly equal output), it just doesn't seem particularly necessary to muddle new players' experiences in that way, nor would you be able to meet the limits of new sustain (be they healing or mitigation) actions and traits particularly well through scaling alone; you'd also want those outright new attacks, which might not be something you could attach dynamically rather than as a different preset version of the instance.
    To be fair, new players would probably be excited to see how fully fleshed out a toolkit for a specific job they would have been getting and would want to get that job and it's toolkit as soon as possible. Though this could have the unintended consequence of promoting level skips...

    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    No, I suspect that tech would be used more for the ability to basically make "Unreal" content on demand, and perhaps have an actual Dungeon Roulette (all the player-favorite dungeons, with some degree of rotation, scaled up to your party's average ilvl for commensurately greater rewards) and Expert Dungeon Roulette (the same, but tuned and filled out more challengingly).
    If only Unreal content was permanent.
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    Last edited by DRKoftheAzure; 11-21-2023 at 07:35 AM.

  2. #4112
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    ItsUrBoi's Avatar
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    Character
    Scuffed Guts
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Hi!
    In 7.0 please do major changes to this job, it was left unloved after Stormblood and its rework in Shadowbringers while okay, didn't build into too much in Endwalker. While I hope this was deliberate as to not put the job in a spot where it can't be better, here are some ideas:

    - Delirium to grant a combo with DRK specific thematic attacks. Spamming the same attack over and over again is Warrior's identity.
    - Consolidation of defenses such as merging Dark Mind and Oblation together
    - Using Carve and Spit / Abyssal Drain more often, frequency is low
    - Living Shadow is a 2 minute button that doesn't do very much, maybe change it to copy abilities that you do or have it execute a cool finisher with you, after it did it rotation of attacks? Or just change it to be a damage buff similar to RPR's Enshroud.
    - Defensive tools that can heal yourself for single player content or raid situations where you need instant recovery of HP.
    - Maybe a phase where you gain skill / spell speed? No other tank has that.
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  3. #4113
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    GoatOfWar's Avatar
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    Pepper Oni
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ItsUrBoi View Post
    Hi!
    In 7.0 please do major changes to this job, it was left unloved after Stormblood and its rework in Shadowbringers while okay, didn't build into too much in Endwalker. While I hope this was deliberate as to not put the job in a spot where it can't be better, here are some ideas:

    - Delirium to grant a combo with DRK specific thematic attacks. Spamming the same attack over and over again is Warrior's identity.
    - Consolidation of defenses such as merging Dark Mind and Oblation together
    - Using Carve and Spit / Abyssal Drain more often, frequency is low
    - Living Shadow is a 2 minute button that doesn't do very much, maybe change it to copy abilities that you do or have it execute a cool finisher with you, after it did it rotation of attacks? Or just change it to be a damage buff similar to RPR's Enshroud.
    - Defensive tools that can heal yourself for single player content or raid situations where you need instant recovery of HP.
    - Maybe a phase where you gain skill / spell speed? No other tank has that.
    No amount of reworks can fix the issue that Dark knight has; A streamer who mains Warrior and can not cope with the idea of another tank doing something slightly better.
    This is just a cycle every expansion. Dark knight does unique thing>streamer gets mad his tank can not do unique thing> all tanks can do it now.. ''Oh Dark knight has no identity and needs a rework'' Repeat.
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  4. #4114
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    playing other games like yoshida intended
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    Character
    Alondite Ragnell
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Leaked 7.0 Dark Knight:
    lv 92: Enhanced Oblation
    Oblation now has a 3rd charge

    lv 94: Enhanced Carve and Spit/Abyssal Drain
    Both now have a 2nd charge

    lv 96: Unnamed DRK damage only ogcd # 7 with a 60s cd

    lv 98: Enhanced Living Shadow III
    Increases Potency of Living Shadow skills

    lv100: Dark Rend
    GCD that can only be cast under Delirium once per Delirium activation
    lv100: Enhanced Living Shadow IV
    Living Shadow can execute Dark Rend

    Job changes of existing skills:
    Salted Earth now has a 60s cd
    Dark Mind now has a 90s cd
    Shadowbringer now has Guaranteed Crit/DH

    please look forward to it
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  5. #4115
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    GoatOfWar's Avatar
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    Pepper Oni
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Leaked 7.0 Dark Knight:
    lv 92: Enhanced Oblation
    Oblation now has a 3rd charge

    lv 94: Enhanced Carve and Spit/Abyssal Drain
    Both now have a 2nd charge

    lv 96: Unnamed DRK damage only ogcd # 7 with a 60s cd

    lv 98: Enhanced Living Shadow III
    Increases Potency of Living Shadow skills

    lv100: Dark Rend
    GCD that can only be cast under Delirium once per Delirium activation
    lv100: Enhanced Living Shadow IV
    Living Shadow can execute Dark Rend

    Job changes of existing skills:
    Salted Earth now has a 60s cd
    Dark Mind now has a 90s cd
    Shadowbringer now has Guaranteed Crit/DH

    please look forward to it
    Xenosys Vex Will have a field day explaining why Warrior needs 3 stacks of thrill because of Dark knight having 3 stacks of oblation.
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  6. #4116
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    Flay_wind's Avatar
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    Character
    Lily D'kryl
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Leaked 7.0 Dark Knight:
    please look forward to it
    You forgot Enhanced Living Shadow V.
    Recast of Living Shadow is reduced to 110 seconds.
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  7. #4117
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    Mecia's Avatar
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    Character
    O'ssu Mecia
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    I sure love getting LS trait upgrades that amount to basically nothing being added to the job. Its 100% going to happen once again, probably stealing a spot from something more meaningful.
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  8. #4118
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    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Limsa-Lominsa
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    Character
    Kalaam Nozalys
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Enhanced Plunge II: 5% chance to reduce Carve&Spit/Abyssal Drain CD by 5 seconds
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  9. #4119
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Character
    Tiana Vestoria
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    Enhanced Plunge II: 5% chance to reduce Carve&Spit/Abyssal Drain CD by 5 seconds
    That could introduce some rng into the perfectly bland 60 second loop, so it's definitely not gonna happen.
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  10. #4120
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    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Character
    Kalaam Nozalys
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    That could introduce some rng into the perfectly bland 60 second loop, so it's definitely not gonna happen.
    I remember when Unmend had a chance of making your next Unleash cost no MP. Was a neat little bonus when doing mob pulls, or a kinda refund of a GCD when grabbing a stray mob chasing down one of your DPS. Love that kind of little things.
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