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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by keichirou View Post
    if this job doesnt have a poison DoT or some sort of green attack ....im gonna throw a huge tantrum....
    Poison isn't the only qualifying feature of a Viper, speed is as well, see my post about "Cottonmouth Viper".
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    Severian Lyonesse
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Poison isn't the only qualifying feature of a Viper, speed is as well, see my post about "Cottonmouth Viper".
    Good motifs utilize more than a single facet, and the fact that people keep pulling this "oh vipers are the fastest snakes" to justify the name is just...really poor critical analysis.

    A job with speed AND poison, sure, call that a Viper.

    A job that is only about speed? Calling it a Viper is practically a malapropism, or at the very least not really delivering on the expectations of the name. You'd be better off calling it something like Falcon, or Panther, or Shark.

    Again, I think Viper is additionally a poor name because windmilling a sword-staff around isn't remotely Viperish. The split swords, sure, but that's only half the skills. So why isn't this class called a Hunter, with a Viper stance (separate swords) and a Hawk stance (combined swords)?
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Poison isn't the only qualifying feature of a Viper, speed is as well, see my post about "Cottonmouth Viper".
    I agree with this, Dragoons don't have Dragon wings or fangs (beyond the skill name).
    Ninja doesn't even have a poison and no one bats an eye.

    Vipers are animals that strike with speed and from a hiding spot.
    If anything just limiting ourselves to poison would be generic and uninspired.

    Devs also have to put gameplay first before introducing a poison for poison's sakes.
    Complaining because Viper doesn't have poison is just finding any excuses to complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I agree with this, Dragoons don't have Dragon wings or fangs (beyond the skill name).
    Ninja doesn't even have a poison and no one bats an eye.

    Vipers are animals that strike with speed and from a hiding spot.
    If anything just limiting ourselves to poison would be generic and uninspired.

    Devs also have to put gameplay first before introducing a poison for poison's sakes.
    Complaining because Viper doesn't have poison is just finding any excuses to complain.
    You have our position kind of backwards, though.

    It's not that we necessarily wanted or needed a poison job.

    It's that naming a job with clearly poisonous connotations without intending to deliver on that is just poorly thought out design. If it has no poison, there are a dozen other nonvenomous animals they could have named the job after to much clearer and stronger effect. Hawk. Panther. Etc.
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    Last edited by SeverianLyonesse; 10-25-2023 at 03:18 AM.