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    Quote Originally Posted by Luluya View Post
    Its certainly not what I expected for a new job name but if people can distinguish warriors(lowercase as in the many combatant's referred to as this in-game) from Warriors(the specific berserking inner beast job), I don't see how Viper could be problematic for a name.
    I have literally never heard someone refer to the players as "warriors". Always "Warrior(s) of Light", "WoL" for short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    I have literally never heard someone refer to the players as "warriors". Always "Warrior(s) of Light", "WoL" for short.
    Not specifically the player (though the Paladin questline does have Solkazygl refer to the player as a warrior), but I was moreso talking about warrior being a common term for any type of combatant in the FFXIV universe, hence why the heroes of the calamity/the player are referred to as 'warriors' of light.

    Then in the Warrior questline the NPC you're with makes a distinct remark about the lost art of the Warriors, which indicates that they can easily distinguish the difference between warriors and Warriors.

    My point being, if they can distinguish warriors (as in any fighting man or woman) from Warriors(the job), it stands to reason they will be able to do the same for vipers (the danger noodle) and Vipers (the dual sword and twinblade wielding hunter).

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Not to argue against the overall meaning of your post, but the axe-wielding berserkers are still "lower-case" warriors. The game text doesn't capitalise job titles.

    If anything, it's actually the other way around with the job "warrior" versus the title "Warrior of Light".
    Thank you for the correction! It was more so to distinguish within the context of the post that they're different things, but I appreciate it nonetheless.
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    Last edited by Luluya; 10-26-2023 at 05:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luluya View Post
    My point being, if they can distinguish warriors (as in any fighting man or woman) from Warriors(the job), it stands to reason they will be able to do the same for vipers (the danger noodle) and Vipers (the dual sword and twinblade wielding hunter).
    The best example of this in action IMO is Scholars, and scholars
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luluya View Post
    Its certainly not what I expected for a new job name but if people can distinguish warriors(lowercase as in the many combatant's referred to as this in-game) from Warriors(the specific berserking inner beast job), I don't see how Viper could be problematic for a name.
    Not to argue against the overall meaning of your post, but the axe-wielding berserkers are still "lower-case" warriors. The game text doesn't capitalise job titles.

    If anything, it's actually the other way around with the job "warrior" versus the title "Warrior of Light".
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    I think it’s dumb, but it could make sense when we see their abilities. It could be all snake and poison puns/references. Who knows? But I'm also not an authority on what names things should be called. I've named a hamster Steve.
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    For the last time: It depends on the writers. Like omg i never argued that the writers wouldn't let them distingiush them. Like ffs you can name EVERYONE "Steve" and then write it like they always somehow know who is meant. I thought that was already known by everyone. My point was rather with how realistic or non-realistic and impractical such a name is.
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    Idk how they came up with that given the meaning of the word in English and in French when used to describe a person. So cringe. Maybe they should open a dictionary before it’s too late.
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    Uhh, “Viper” was a name and term in FFIX, if I remember correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    Uhh, “Viper” was a name and term in FFIX, if I remember correctly.
    Are you sure? Can't find anything about that
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Are you sure? Can't find anything about that
    It's a the nickname of one of Zidanes twinblades found in the help text
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