Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
I don't understand your question. Whether or not the trip occurred, the past could still be viewed in terms of Hermes plotting and Meteion flying off multiple times. If anything you can't really rely on the post Elpis visit instance at all because as we know, that instance cannot directly change history. The fact is the goal posts just continue moving because first it was "Venat should have told someone" then it was "Ancients casually view the past"..now here we are.

So no
Totally right. People tend to forget that before we go to elpis. On the first when we interact with what's left of Elidibus. He actually mentions remembering we were there on elpis.

So saying that, you are correct. We couldn't change history but from him remembering sets it up for us actually being a part of what unfolded there. They reused this as well during panda raid story.

Also if you wonder had we not taken the trip. Could hythlodaeus and emet and venat stumbled upon what Hermes was doing. Or would have hermes plans gone unnoticed and the cataclysmic events happen far sooner then they did.

Like we know venat and them are wicked smart but just how smart. Something to think on.