A new tactic for the dissatisfied

[Renathras]

Let's face it, even if there is a decent sized portion of the game's population that is wants to see improvements, even if that entire group banded together and created one mega petition, nothing would come of it.

People are rarely interested in making the effort to prevent issues from arising, but when the issues has become a problem, often there's motivation.

I understand that there's a lot of impassioned people who truly want to see improvements, so this might be hard, but this is one of the faster remedies. Give up hoping for change, give up asking for change. Leave things be, and encourage them to stay the same and continue down the path they're continuing. The faster you allow the situation to fester the faster you'll get your results of change when the issues you find troublesome reach the point where they can no longer be ignored.

I don't personally hate the game, but there's a lot of improvements I'd like that I know have no chance of ever being added to the game as it stands currently. Keep playing and doing whatever you enjoy in the game or quit if there's nothing left for you, while supporting the game's current path. Hope for the worst and encourage it because the sooner it occurs the sooner you'll see change.

Honestly, the issue is that a lot - not all, but the loud, prodigious voices - of the people who dislike the game don't offer suggestions or critiques at all.

They attack other players, they attack the devs, the attack anyone presenting opposing arguments. They don't critique the game, they don't offer suggestions for improvement. And in the rare cases they do, they drown them out by burying them deep in vitriol and insults to the point no sane person can be expected to find them.

I say keep voicing changes you think are worthwhile - I do all the time - just do so respectfully and with argument for why you think it's a problem and why you think your solution works. You may not get exactly what you want that way (some things may not be workable), but you may encourage some change (it may spur ideas for things that can be done), too.

For example, I think players asking for exploration content have been heard. Perhaps not quite enough, but it sounds like they're planning one for the next expansion; and the reason EW didn't have one was probably due to all the complaints in SB and ShB of players against them.

Which is the other thing - don't ask for things to be removed. Because that tends to happen if enough people ask for it, and there's not always a replacement...

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EDIT:

1) Don't attack other players when offering critique/argument.
2) Don't engage in hyperbole.

If you can stick to those two rules, you might get more results.

[SieyaM]

Actually the dissatisfied are the overwhelming majority which is why this game's population dropped 70% since 6.0

That's quite a number there, where did you get this data?

[Renalt]

That's quite a number there, where did you get this data?

[RosaliaDLB]

That's quite a number there, where did you get this data?

https://steamcharts.com/app/39210

You're welcome

cant wait for "it's steam so it doesnt show anything !!!"

it's a sample, and it shows enough.

Peak players went down by 2/3rd, average went down by more than 50%.

[ASkellington]

I mean... we can be vocal in our dissatisfaction and watch as the devs continue on without our "support" and then give a big fat "I told you so" afterwards when they cave.

Its what I'm currently doing with AST.

[Renathras]

https://steamcharts.com/app/39210

You're welcome

cant wait for "it's steam so it doesnt show anything !!!"

it's a sample, and it shows enough.

Peak players went down by 2/3rd, average went down by more than 50%.

The clam wasn't "70% drop in steam players".

The claim was "this game's population dropped 70% since 6.0".

Provide data showing THE GAME'S TOTAL POPULATION dropped 70% since 6.0.

[RosaliaDLB]

The clam wasn't "70% drop in steam players".

The claim was "this game's population dropped 70% since 6.0".

Provide data showing THE GAME'S TOTAL POPULATION dropped 70% since 6.0.

It lost about 50% (tiny bit more actually but not that much) of the game population yes, not 70%, 70% is if you look at the peak players.

Also I really dont care about "yes but its steam nya nya nya nya",steam is a good sample, I had this discussion in the past with people already, I aint doing that again. Take it or not, not my problem, I provided numbers that are a good sample, period.

[Bonoki]

It lost about 50% (tiny bit more actually but not that much) of the game population yes, not 70%, 70% is if you look at the peak players.

Also I really dont care about "yes but its steam nya nya nya nya",steam is a good sample, I had this discussion in the past with people already, I aint doing that again. Take it or not, not my problem, I provided numbers that are a good sample, period.

I to like to lie with statistics. It's a very good book.

[RosaliaDLB]

I to like to lie with statistics. It's a very good book.

I'm very sorry to learn that you are unable to count 95102 - 35044 and to see what's left, same for 53729 - 21072

But get better soon, best wishes

[Renathras]

It lost about 50% (tiny bit more actually but not that much) of the game population yes, not 70%, 70% is if you look at the peak players.

The total playerbase, not just Steam players?

Okay, got a link/statistic to prove that?

That ALL players dropped 50%, not just Steam players? (And as I recall from that discussion you had before, I actually used the statistics to prove you wrong, showing that the number of players at the same point in a given expansion shows EW growing, not shrinking, compared to ShB, using the Steam numbers: