A new tactic for the dissatisfied

[FenyxRising]

What are you even on about.

Lucky bancho's censuses are about as accurate info as we can get, and even if we use the absolute latest one that occurred last month smack dab in a drought period between major patches, EW has only lost 34%. (1.7 million at start of expansion vs 1.13 now as of August). But even this metric doesn't paint the whole picture, as this exact same dip has occurred every single expansion by similar %s at this point in the expansion's lifecycle, minus SHB's outlier situation with the WoW exodus. This also ignores that every major patch this expansion, including 6.4 had about 1.3-1.4 million active characters, even when the censuses right before them had dipped to the similar 1.1-1.2 mark.

And this is just the data we can gleam. Speaking bluntly as a former game dev in the AAA industry, Square has access to statistics and data that paint a far better, clearer picture than any of us could ever speculate. Let me give you an industry secret: your feedback is literally irrelevant. Game developers these days have access to such insane stats data that individual feedback is literally detrimental to listen to because that person's feedback could be going against the reality of what the playerbase actually wants. Why do you think the industry as a way larger whole has shifted towards more cinematic experiences, streamlined game systems and mobile development? Because that's literally the demographic that is making up the ever-growing majority of gamers. People with small amounts of time to game that want chill, cinematic, fun one time experiences, and Sqaure Enix knows it. Even as much as people like to applaud games like BG3 for 'showing the AAA studios what a real game is'...that game's revenue doesn't even beat Pokemon GO's profits this year, a game that had its lowest record profits this year and released 7 years ago. Honor of Kings has made nearly 4x as much as it so far this year alone lmao.

I've said it before and I'll repeat it over and over: literally the only feedback you could ever provide that will ever matter is when you vote with your wallet and leave. Data is so powerful in this modern day that the voice of individuals is literally irrelevant. FF14 was profitable when it had 1/3rd the playerbase it does today, they don't need everyone to be subbed 24/7 to be immensely more profitable than they were in expansions past. At this point, you either agree with the direction FF14 is heading in and enjoy it for what it is, or you cut your losses and move on. They're targetting the majority gamer market with the streamlining of this game, and its paying off immensely for them; they have no reason to course correct when every last piece of data this industry has acquired the past 8 years has been pointing in the exact same direction they're currently traveling.

Baldur's Gate 3 and Elden Ring have more sales than Final Fantasy 16

NEXT

[Snorky]

Trying to figure out the relevance, nah nevermind carry on with your crusade!

[RosaliaDLB]

What are you even on about.

Lucky bancho's censuses are about as accurate info as we can get, and even if we use the absolute latest one that occurred last month smack dab in a drought period between major patches, EW has only lost 34%. (1.7 million at start of expansion vs 1.13 now as of August). But even this metric doesn't paint the whole picture, as this exact same dip has occurred every single expansion by similar %s at this point in the expansion's lifecycle, minus SHB's outlier situation with the WoW exodus. This also ignores that every major patch this expansion, including 6.4 had about 1.3-1.4 million active characters, even when the censuses right before them had dipped to the similar 1.1-1.2 mark.

And this is just the data we can gleam. Speaking bluntly as a former game dev in the AAA industry, Square has access to statistics and data that paint a far better, clearer picture than any of us could ever speculate. Let me give you an industry secret: your feedback is literally irrelevant. Game developers these days have access to such insane stats data that individual feedback is literally detrimental to listen to because that person's feedback could be going against the reality of what the playerbase actually wants. Why do you think the industry as a way larger whole has shifted towards more cinematic experiences, streamlined game systems and mobile development? Because that's literally the demographic that is making up the ever-growing majority of gamers. People with small amounts of time to game that want chill, cinematic, fun one time experiences, and Sqaure Enix knows it. Even as much as people like to applaud games like BG3 for 'showing the AAA studios what a real game is'...that game's revenue doesn't even beat Pokemon GO's profits this year, a game that had its lowest record profits this year and released 7 years ago. Honor of Kings has made nearly 4x as much as it so far this year alone lmao.

I've said it before and I'll repeat it over and over: literally the only feedback you could ever provide that will ever matter is when you vote with your wallet and leave. Data is so powerful in this modern day that the voice of individuals is literally irrelevant. FF14 was profitable when it had 1/3rd the playerbase it does today, they don't need everyone to be subbed 24/7 to be immensely more profitable than they were in expansions past. At this point, you either agree with the direction FF14 is heading in and enjoy it for what it is, or you cut your losses and move on. They're targetting the majority gamer market with the streamlining of this game, and its paying off immensely for them; they have no reason to course correct when every last piece of data this industry has acquired the past 8 years has been pointing in the exact same direction they're currently traveling.

tldr

"blah blah your complaints dont matter blah blah blah just unsub blah blah blah"

thanks for your input

[Snorky]

tldr

"blah blah your complaints dont matter blah blah blah just unsub blah blah blah"

thanks for your input

Point proven!

[SieyaM]

Actually the dissatisfied are the overwhelming majority which is why this game's population dropped 70% since 6.0

That's quite a number there, where did you get this data?

[Renalt]

That's quite a number there, where did you get this data?

[RosaliaDLB]

That's quite a number there, where did you get this data?

https://steamcharts.com/app/39210

You're welcome

cant wait for "it's steam so it doesnt show anything !!!"

it's a sample, and it shows enough.

Peak players went down by 2/3rd, average went down by more than 50%.

[Renathras]

https://steamcharts.com/app/39210

You're welcome

cant wait for "it's steam so it doesnt show anything !!!"

it's a sample, and it shows enough.

Peak players went down by 2/3rd, average went down by more than 50%.

The clam wasn't "70% drop in steam players".

The claim was "this game's population dropped 70% since 6.0".

Provide data showing THE GAME'S TOTAL POPULATION dropped 70% since 6.0.

[Reimmi]

The dissatisfied are the severe minority. They think that they're bigger than they are, as they cannot fathom that most players are happy with the game.

Well yeah the dissatisfied will become a minority and then only like 5000 people who are happy with nothing to do except mod the game with butt ugly face mods and afk in limsa or go to clubs will be playing

[Payadopa]

Then why do we have a feedback forum? You act like XIV has never changed before. The changes from 1.0 to 2.0 where significant, as were the changes from 4.0 to 5.0. Change happens all the time. Your premise is kinda flawed.