The Coil's Situation

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The obvious solution is to force everyone to fight Titan on a PS3.

I mean, the WHM in my coil static healed T9 on a PS3 while holding a toddler.

[kaynide]

I agree with the sentiment that this is important story content. But Coils as it is isn't in a state to go into a normal raid roulette. The thought of T5 or T9 coming up is just terrifying since it would either be a wipefest and abandon or tons of people would just bail right away so you'd have to wait for it to fill again to become a wipefest and abandon.

I think a better option is going back and maybe making a story version that could then go into the normal raid roulette. It would mean development resources would need to be given for it, but it's important enough story to warrant it.

+1, this is a good idea. Even if it's an NPC-able thing, this warrants a rework for the story significance.

[Absimiliard]

I mean, the WHM in my coil static healed T9 on a PS3 while holding a toddler.

So what you're saying is that your Coil static's WHM was in fact a witch.

[Supersnow845]

Coils should be done by everyone but I also think that the way coils is designed is never really going to work in the normal raid roulette, making a new coils of story difficulty would require so much extra resources they would basically be making a new raid tier, this is to say nothing of the fact that coils handles cutscenes differently to all the other raids; the cutscenes from 7, 9, 12 and 13 that happen before the fight would have to be moved out of the instance (and since NG+ still can’t seem to get coils cutscenes right there seems to be a problem with the design of coils cutscenes)

While it isn’t exactly terribly lore accurate and I don’t even know if it would be possible my suggestion was always to either have a god mod toggle for coils so you can do it at 50, that or you bring along an NPC that has god mode on it so they can solo the boss for you just so you can do the story

It isn’t exactly an elegant solution but I think we are far past the point of coils actually being fixed in the proper sense

[DiaDeem]

turn 5

[TaleraRistain]

I'm not sure about Twintania, but there is at least a hunt version of it that seems stripped of anything difficult.

There's the Twintania clone in Orthos but that's on fixed floors. They could mimic that and probably just tone down the twisters for a normal raid so they just damage instead of insta-kill and people could learn to muddle through it.

[Jeeqbit]

There's the Twintania clone in Orthos but that's on fixed floors. They could mimic that and probably just tone down the twisters for a normal raid so they just damage instead of insta-kill and people could learn to muddle through it.

I didn't include that one because of the twisters.

[Arrius]

Definitely could use remake/rebalance and to be added to the normal raid roulette.

Given the significance of the story behind it, this kind of feels necessary to do so.

[vetch]

Definitely could use remake/rebalance and to be added to the normal raid roulette.

Given the significance of the story behind it, this kind of feels necessary to do so.

Absolutely not. If they had to touch Coils again they'd need to make completely separate 'normal' versions for the roulette because their current design sensibilities are so alien to what they were when Coils was made that otherwise they'll end up fouling some of my favorite content in the game.

But, making an entirely separate raid series would be a huge undertaking for their team because they're already running a skeleton crew, which means it's much more likely for them to just take an axe to the existing content the way they have done with almost every retouch, which means I want them to leave it alone.

[Renalt]

Was that when she was in the cage about to be eaten by alligators or when she was about to be eaten by giant frogs?