The Coil's Situation

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Coil is savage content.



You aren't doing it in df, not to the level you are used to with other normal raids.


You say they aren't that much harder, but have you done them synced with randoms? Especially turn 5, all of second coil, and all of final coil?





We can't even get players to get into stack mechanics sometimes and you expect them to do conflag, dive bombs, the tethers in t11, wild charge in t10.



Divebombs and ice/fire in t9, etc, etc

[Absimiliard]

I know I'm taking the bait here, but I'm sure some players have contemplated this unironically.

Some of the Coils haven't aged well, by which I mean they're now easier than a lot of normal content in the game. On the other hand, some of them would still absolutely roll your average group of randos. Adding them to the roulette seems... unwise.

[Vahlnir]

Coil is savage content.



You aren't doing it in df, not to the level you are used to with other normal raids.


You say they aren't that much harder, but have you done them synced with randoms? Especially turn 5, all of second coil, and all of final coil?





We can't even get players to get into stack mechanics sometimes and you expect them to do conflag, dive bombs, the tethers in t11, wild charge in t10.



Divebombs and ice/fire in t9, etc, etc

Twintania was a pain in ARR. I remember doing that one with random people. That convinced me NOT to proceed any further at the time. Considering that it took me almost a month to clear Titan HM on release because players couldn't even handle THAT...yeah...fun times, fun times.

[kaynide]

Twintania was a pain in ARR. I remember doing that one with random people. That convinced me NOT to proceed any further at the time. Considering that it took me almost a month to clear Titan HM on release because players couldn't even handle THAT...yeah...

You remember when just to survive the limit break everyone (including healers) had to meld +vit/use +vit jewelry? Good times. I think that was Titan…

[Vahlnir]

You remember when just to survive the limit break everyone (including healers) had to meld +vit/use +vit jewelry? Good times. I think that was Titan…

I honestly don't remember that, but I'm not saying it didn't happen.

[kaynide]

I honestly don't remember that, but I'm not saying it didn't happen.

This was way back when Darklight was the best gear and the target was to have like…3,200 hp or die screaming. Yeah….

[DiaDeem]

turn 5

[Renalt]

Was that when she was in the cage about to be eaten by alligators or when she was about to be eaten by giant frogs?