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[Supersnow845]

Its completely relevant. You now have 35 minutes to explore 6 city blocks, at night, with random enemies that spawn and attack you and will follow you,. I wont tell you anything at all, fail and you do it again..and again..and again..and again...

If you fail it once you can put it on very easy mode

Regardless the 40 minute timer is ridiculously generous, I did it totally blind, fumbled around like a headless chicken for half of it and still cleared with plenty of time to spare

But again that isn’t relevant because I’m saying having an anxiety attack at a solo duty in ff14 (again when you know it can be made very easy) is beyond the scope of accessibility

[SophiaDL]

If you fail it once you can put it on very easy mode

Regardless the 40 minute timer is ridiculously generous, I did it totally blind, fumbled around like a headless chicken for half of it and still cleared with plenty of time to spare

But again that isn’t relevant because I’m saying having an anxiety attack at a solo duty in ff14 (again when you know it can be made very easy) is beyond the scope of accessibility

It's a snowflake world these days in all honesty, you have to cater to every single person in the world no matter what they have, I actually wonder why we arent just sitting afk in Limsa all day with no content at all, since apparently anxiety is a factor in how content should be built, then we shouldnt have ultimates or savage raiding, I'm sure that's also anxiety inducing for a lot of people, hell, why even have anything at all ? Anything and everything can be an anxiety trigger, some people have arachnophobia, so we shouldnt have any spiders in the game at all too.

If you go the route of catering to every single person, you end up with an empty game, which is what FFXIV is. An empty shell of nothingness, with the most bland content there is, thank god the social aspect and glamour saves this game (and housing in my case)

[VelKallor]

Hiya Stormpeaks...well I am assuming its you given your usual sneering..is this a new alt?

since apparently anxiety is a factor in how content should be built,

Yes it is, in much the same way as games have allowances for people who have phobias.

Anything and everything can be an anxiety trigger, some people have arachnophobia, so we shouldnt have any spiders in the game at all too.

Or the images can be changed. A new game, Satisfactory, has a mode that turns spiders into low res cats. it isnt hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ6bxL50-Gk

[SophiaDL]

Hiya Stormpeaks...well I am assuming its you given your usual sneering..is this a new alt?



Yes it is, in much the same way as games have allowances for people who have phobias.



Or the images can be changed. A new game, Satisfactory, has a mode that turns spiders into low res cats. it isnt hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ6bxL50-Gk

Then I'll be waiting for the day savage and ultimates are removed, and we all sit in Limsa all day, after all, we cant have people have anxiety now can we ?

[VelKallor]

Then I'll be waiting for the day savage and ultimates are removed, and we all sit in Limsa all day, after all, we cant have people have anxiety now can we ?

[SophiaDL]

So a timer in a solo duty can "create anxiety attacks" but not ultimate and savage ?

Interesting point of view there

If you want to make people be in a safe space, then remove all content, because all content can be panic attack inducing.

[Jojoya]

It's a snowflake world these days in all honesty, you have to cater to every single person in the world no matter what they have, I actually wonder why we arent just sitting afk in Limsa all day with no content at all, since apparently anxiety is a factor in how content should be built, then we shouldnt have ultimates or savage raiding, I'm sure that's also anxiety inducing for a lot of people, hell, why even have anything at all ? Anything and everything can be an anxiety trigger, some people have arachnophobia, so we shouldnt have any spiders in the game at all too.

If you go the route of catering to every single person, you end up with an empty game, which is what FFXIV is. An empty shell of nothingness, with the most bland content there is, thank god the social aspect and glamour saves this game (and housing in my case)

In the end, the game is made to generate profits.

If they see specific points in the game where enough people quit due to failing to complete a certain duty or get feedback that players can't handle certain things due to phobias. etc., what happens?

They look at the problem area, decide how essential it is to the game's experience to remain as it is, figure out how much it would cost them to change the problem area, anticipate how much bad publicity might be generated if they don't change it, etc.

Is cost the negligible, as it was for changing the SGE icon? Then make the change - the icon didn't need the holes in it.

Is the cost to change less than the amount of revenue they're losing due to players quitting? Again, make the change. YoshiP had mentioned how they used to lose a large number of new players early in the MSQ when players were required to have level 5 gear equipped for a quest but most only had the racial starting gear with an ilvl of 1 equipped. What did they do? Increased the ilvl of that gear to 5 so all the player has to do is one of the side quests that rewards a hat or buy one off the very convenient nearby vendor.

Are they going to get a lot of bad press for not making minor changes to accommodate players with common disabilities? They're going to make those changes.

It doesn't matter what players think is or is not reasonable as an accommodation. SE is going to make the decision that is in their best financial interest. If they believe they'll lose more revenue by not making the change than it costs to make the change, they're going to make the change.

And so we have Normal, Easy and Very Easy for solo duties. It doesn't matter that Supersnow, you and I felt the duty was fine as is. It wasn't easy for many other players and SE saw that struggle in their data. They decided a change needed to be made.

Their game, their choice. Complaints that they're "dumbing down the game so toddlers can play" isn't going to influence their decision-making. They're going to make the decisions they feel are in the best interest of the game they want to make and the players they want playing it.

If you feel it's a shell of nothingness, so be it. You're still making the choice to play the game so it can't be bothering you that much.

In case you never noticed, this game has a noticeable lack of spiders compared to most MMORPGs.

But looks like nowadays simply using brain is the anxiety-inducing task.

No. The brain is creating anxiety due to not functioning correctly and that anxiety makes it more difficult for the player to do ordinary tasks. Trying to handle situations they have not encountered before becomes even more difficult.

It's not an imaginary problem. It's a very real medical condition.

Are you offended that parts of the game are made easier for those living with disabilities?

[SophiaDL]

No. The brain is creating anxiety due to not functioning correctly and that anxiety makes it more difficult for the player to do ordinary tasks. Trying to handle situations they have not encountered before becomes even more difficult.

It's not an imaginary problem. It's a very real medical condition.

Are you offended that parts of the game are made easier for those living with disabilities?

I not only have severe anxiety, but also have PTSD due to a heart problem I've had in the past, I have very easy panic attacks that will literally send me to the hospital with 200 heart rate, and yet, I do solo duties just fine with the timer.

If you cant do the duty with the timer, then dont do it.

This is a video game, not a babysitting company. The game doesnt need to cater to me having severe anxiety and PTSD, that's my responsibility and my problem, not SE's.

[Remember_The_Name]

Their game, their choice. Complaints that they're "dumbing down the game so toddlers can play" isn't going to influence their decision-making. They're going to make the decisions they feel are in the best interest of the game they want to make and the players they want playing it.

That's all good, but...

For casuals, there is TONS of stuff to do. Good.

For hardcore, there is Extreme, Savage, Ultimates and MINE runs from older expansions. Good.

And for Midcore players, there is..... ehmm... huuhh... outdated Bozja and Eureka. Oh, and the Deep Dungeons, which are pretty much carbon copies of each other. Not Good, eh?

I would gladly assign Trials, Normal and Alliance raids to Midcore section, but absence of Ilvl sync and absurdly long "introduction phases" reduces them all to casual levels.

Are you offended that parts of the game are made easier for those living with disabilities?

Listen. Maybe, just maybe, if a person have real medical problem with their head - they probably should not have picked the game that relies on quick thinking decision making. A combat-heavy game with the story that actively mentions people dying, slavery, treachery, etc etc...

There are plenty of other games that are way more laid back and relaxing.