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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Two people fail a msq scenario. They then get the difficulty option.

    Person A dials it up to hard. and Person B dials it down to very easy. Exactly how doer Person Bs choice affect Person A?
    Because person B complaining nerfed the original duty and now I have to fail it to put it up to hard to get the original experience of it

    If you are person B quietly fail it and take the very easy option, don’t force square to nerf it and then add a hard (read original mode) that forces someone to fail the nerfed mode to get the hard mode
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    Because person B complaining nerfed the original duty and now I have to fail it to put it up to hard to get the original experience of it
    False

    The very first time by default is on normal difficulty.
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    If you cant do the duty with the timer, then dont do it.
    ....and be unable to move on the MSQ? Oh thats right I forgot, you dont care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    ....and be unable to move on the MSQ? Oh thats right I forgot, you dont care.
    If you cant do a simple solo duty, then perhaps its better you dont get to end game yeah, looks like you're just preparing yourself for a very bad time if you plan on doing any sort of end game content and already cant handle a solo duty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    If you cant do a simple solo duty, then perhaps its better you dont get to end game yeah, looks like you're just preparing yourself for a very bad time if you plan on doing any sort of end game content and already cant handle a solo duty.
    Endgame is whatever that person wants it to be, your MAJOR mistake is that the only person who equates endgame with raiding alone is you , and thank you for confirming that you dont care for anyone save yourself.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 08-20-2023 at 08:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Endgame is whatever that person wants it to be, your MAJOR mistake the is that only person who equates endgame with raiding alone is you , and thank you for confirming that you dont care for anyone save yourself.
    I mean hey, if that's their endgame, they dont need to go further right ? If that's their limit, they can stop there, that's literally my point lmao, if that's where they think "this is too much i cant handle this timer in this solo duty, i have to stop here" that's their endgame.

    Congratulations, they reached their goal and their limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    I mean hey, if that's their endgame, they dont need to go further right ? If that's their limit, they can stop there, that's literally my point lmao
    That scenario is level 83. Ends of MSQ is level 90.

    You are in fact locking them off from the rest of the MSQ. Never go into game design.

    Still wondering what happened to Stormpeaks. It also seems Koros and his alts are gone along with a few others. Well well. Cant say as Im sorry.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 08-20-2023 at 08:07 PM.

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    I've been noticing a trend lately on these forums.

    When very easy mode was added to MSQ solo duties, people praised it for offering more options. When EW SMN happened and people saw the abundance of free movement, people praised it for offering more options. When jobs were simplified, people praised it for allowing more options among roles.

    But when people ask for optional complexity to their jobs, or when people ask for optional grinds to do, suddenly people are fighting tooth and nail against those options. Why is that? Are options good or bad to have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    I've been noticing a trend lately on these forums.

    When very easy mode was added to MSQ solo duties, people praised it for offering more options. When EW SMN happened and people saw the abundance of free movement, people praised it for offering more options. When jobs were simplified, people praised it for allowing more options among roles.

    But when people ask for optional complexity to their jobs, or when people ask for optional grinds to do, suddenly people are fighting tooth and nail against those options. Why is that? Are options good or bad to have?
    You’ll find people who want complexity will praise accessibility options as long as they don’t reduce inherent complexity (such as very easy mode) but people who don’t like complexity will fight tooth and nail to get it completely removed from the game (such as I can’t clear this duty on normal, instead of clearing it on very easy I’ll demand it be nerfed)

    And it affects every facet of the game, jobs can’t be easy with added complexity people need to be able to pink parse with their brains turned off, eureka and Bozja can’t continue because they force me to actually play the game

    It’s just a never ending sequence of content being cut and watered down because excessively pro casual people would rather content be deleted than just admit that it may be too hard or not the type of content for them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    It’s just a never ending sequence of content being cut and watered down because excessively pro casual people would rather content be deleted than just admit that it may be too hard or not the type of content for them
    You have a better chance of corrupt politicians apologizing to the nations they destroyed than these people ever admitting that let alone do something else.
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